Miami Special Utility Authority (MSUA)
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00:00We've got the application, I'll remember to all six of them.
00:07Let us pray gracious God thank you for our civil servants
00:20Thank You For Their Hard Work and Sacrifice
00:24May Your Continuously Bless Them in generously give To each Of Then Wise & Descerning Hearts
00:28To skillfully serve the people in our city. Give The Mayor City Manager, City Leaders staff and
00:36City Council wisdom so that they may solve problems
00:40Distinguished Between Right & Wrong
00:44And Bring Order, Stability
00:46And Prosperity to Our Community
00:49Through Jesus Christ Your Son
00:51Amen
01:01And We've got...
01:03...to the Church of Christ's Son
01:13Listen, bring You in for about a GIMPOT and schedule Personal Pairances
01:23One that I...
01:25Is it a pretty Michigan or something like this?
01:27So we had one Alicia Hogan
01:31She is not here so little on
01:34The number five, quite neless
01:38Motion to approve
01:40Second
01:42Five
01:44Six
01:46Motion to approve
01:50Second
01:53Second
01:55Five
01:58Seven
02:00Two minutes from February 25
02:02Twenty five
02:06Second
02:09Second
02:11Second
02:13Third
02:15Eight
02:18Four
02:19Special Services
02:21And Soldiers for Advanced Meadering Infrastructure
02:24To Jesus and Related Signing with the Re
02:27to The Trust Manager, or his DIVGME
02:32We received five submissions from an AMI Consultants
02:36For our FQ2505
02:39In we had a selection team that was Jennifer Watson
03:14It's a group that is out of Colorado
03:18E-Source came in with the score of 166
03:22Quantitotechnology, 162 PSE
03:25157 SL Cerco
03:28142 and Shiplinger
03:30Groups are 140
03:33We recommend awarding this project to e-source
03:37And we need your approval
03:48Start it off, two start
04:25We need to be able
04:28To read the meat, what their charges will
04:32Be making my payments early
04:35Whatever we can work with these guys or stay at
04:38The art companies
04:40Any source was delayed one
04:44I'm just ever been out of a toll on crack
04:46Well that would match it
04:48So if you could get your hand, yeah
04:52That's all cram
04:53We're ready for when we do start changing these out
04:56Because you know, 100 year old meters let's say
04:59People may say
05:07But what makes it a real notification
05:13So is this coming in hourly great?
05:16The first product they are going to be doing
05:19In the packet of his
05:21Open Water Resource Board
05:23We've got three ramps
05:25They need like a breakdown
05:29This will work
05:30So we need to read this going
05:33To be the first product in e-source
05:35On that price list
05:37Because like an hourly rate
05:39Capital on it, then results will
05:41What would not do things?
05:43Like I'm saying
05:46We needed to create an instant engineer
05:48The estimate of being used for whatever
05:50To finalize our grant
05:52And so what does your estimated cost
05:54But they'll send us a call
05:56Before you go into the news
05:57We'll do a lot of them
05:59I don't see the number
06:03If you want to go into this
06:05What we're using for meters itself
06:08From here, if it's not anything
06:11You can say that but
06:13That might be something like a final
06:16Definitely cost
06:18So when they could take us below that
06:21Six hours, and all
06:24This is covered
06:25And we'll be back from
06:27Yeah, so the way it's a big community match
06:30No WV is low
06:34We're bringing in tonight for approval
06:36I don't see this and they can show that
06:38R-RT
06:40My times
06:49On our accused request recallifications
06:52It''s just
07:03Having each consultant give us what their best prices are
07:07But we have to do it's qualifying
07:10And then you had
07:12To see if they're rates are acceptable
07:14It''s not like your negotiating
07:16Between two different companies or anything
07:20On this type of process
07:22The laws were set
07:25We picked the best ones to save us money
07:28Working with all these
07:30Different brands and technologies
07:33This price is what
07:35Like Tyler was saying
07:37Once you get into
07:39When all of the things that we''re going to buy
07:42Are set, how they're setting up
07:44That's only what
07:46You can really give a real good grip on
07:50So who would be in charge
07:53Of this project?
07:55He'd even lead one to getting with these source
07:58Yeah, they are around
08:00It' s always stealing it from me again
08:04I got you
08:08They're going to start trying
08:13To make sure they keep the clothes on
08:16What are doing it?
08:19Yeah, that''s probably this number of my cutting
08:22We're gonna have a...
08:25...we´ve been saying what is he gone and cost
08:27The great R-RT
08:29You do up for them meters
08:31Or not taking seed price
08:36Do we want more questions
08:38I'll second
08:42So, I'm going to start
08:46You jump there
08:48I can't get this real
08:51Then after that's from for a while
08:53From an eye in presentation
08:58And the discussion of electric
09:00The utility rate study by Will Dan
09:02Financial Services
09:05So just as we've already know
09:07There''s a larger pocket in your folder
09:09That uses it tomorrow
09:10And we're not going to do anything about getting more G-RT
09:17You are either increasing
09:20Thank you very much
09:23Chairman, Trustee's my name is Dan Jackson
09:26On Vice President of Will dan Financial Services
09:29We've had the approval
09:31It''s being a water wastewater and electric freight consultants
09:34For doing it on 20 years now
09:36I appreciate
09:38The opportunity
09:40To talk with us
09:41We appreciate all the confidence
09:44You've shown in myself and my firm
09:47Over to last two decades
09:49It's always a pleasure coming up here
09:51I'm actually based on Plano Texas
09:53And like i said we''ve done probably about seven or eight
09:56Of these types of studies for city over
09:58The past 20 years
10:00All our study is at something very much incoming
10:03Not just are studies from Miami
10:05But, other cities around Oklahoma
10:07Throughout this southwest
10:08And that is we are trying to help utilities such as yours
10:12Deal with the inevitable cost increases
10:16To come providing utility service
10:19But try and, um
10:21It's a sensitive topic everybody wants
10:23Talk about in it
10:25Increasing rates for electric services
10:27Or water wastewater service
10:29Nobody want talk of out
10:31Because nobody wanted pay more
10:33No one has paid much money at any time
10:35However
10:36You have to keep a couple of very important things in mind
10:40One is that you try and run your electric utility like business
10:44And the rates at each other for service
10:47To cover all costs providing their services
10:50Those cost are going up
10:53Therefore, if we go on trying
10:56Or do they want it advantage over many businesses
11:01That's not just having an impact
11:03You're just in this to recover your costs
11:06And so if you are rates don't cover
11:09They know essentially, they sell their product for a loss
11:12That's not good business practice
11:15The other thing that we keep very much
11:17Is it always an goal of any utility
11:22To try and keeps rate as low
11:24Obviously
11:26We want the opportunity
11:29Is that utility the balance is
11:32The desire to keep rates low
11:34With a need to invest in your system
11:37To ensure you provide an acceptable and reliable
11:41And consistent quality of service
11:44Electric systems like all other assets
11:47Age, they have where out
11:49They will be replaced
11:51You'll get invested
11:53In order for sure
11:56I do work for utilities that have incredibly low rates
12:02But they are not putting any money into their system
12:05Not only is the quality of systems declining
12:09It's also a customer risk
12:12One thing you will see about
12:15The rate to close up is
12:1928 million dollars in investment
12:22In future, and then there won't be
12:25The advantage of running an electric utility
12:28And that is, the contributions you request from your rate payers
12:32Go right back into this system itself
12:35What they are really doing
12:37Investing in future
12:39In ensuring
12:41Is a systems reliable as one
12:45I'll try to go through
12:47This presentation relatively quickly
12:49But
12:50I want to emphasize a couple of very important things here
12:54One is that there are four factors
12:57That they're driving the need for rate plan
13:00You try and run your operation like business
13:03No businesses immune from inflation
13:07And other factors you can do
13:09Inflation
13:11Is causing cost-to go up
13:13Like any business, but it has no choice
13:15But pass those costs through your ultimate customers
13:17Secondly, your largest expenditure by far
13:22Is the power you purchased from GRDA
13:25GRDA has recently implemented an 11% increase in their costs
13:29And they've already talked about doing another 4%,
13:31Increase later this year
13:33So once again
13:35You have to pass those cost through
13:37Third as I mentioned earlier
13:38You have your step as outlined
13:43Need for 28 million dollars of investment
13:46In maintaining overhauling, repairing and replacing
13:50Your electric system transmission in distribution assets
13:54And that will improve the quality
13:56Of service but
13:58That has to be paid for somehow
14:00This plan is going on to do this
14:03Finally
14:05As Tyler indicated earlier
14:06I have a program to replace your AMI meters
14:10A lot of that is going
14:12To be granted funded but you are
14:14Going back and pay portion
14:16And this rate plan will cover it as well
14:18So these four factors or what's driving the need for
14:21You implement any new rate plan
14:23Just want quickly go over
14:25What do people paid for electric service here?
14:29Well, primarily
14:30The average price is about 10.8 cents
14:32First of all, what hour?
14:34the average wise initial customer uses
14:36Some are between 800 and 900 kilowatt hours
14:39A month
14:41Your commercial
14:46And your industrial customers have slightly higher minimum charge
14:48Any other large quality
14:51PPA or purchase prices just like that
14:54You can buy a lot
14:56And that is going to be a big amount of charge
14:58There was also another charged called APPA
15:00Or purchased price adjustment
15:03That has indicated with the charge right now
15:05Because, mercifully
15:08The cost per power
15:10Has come down and we said,
15:12And you have not had
15:17So what are done
15:20We actually did 10 year forecast
15:22And that is what's going to form the basis for rate recommendations
15:26Well, one of
15:28The primary inputs in any forecast
15:31Is expected growth
15:33My amazement has a very mature community
15:35You're not seeing allotate growth
15:37This chart right here actually shows
15:39Actually reduced your total number
15:42Of electric customers by about 200 over last six years
15:45We think it was bought up now
15:46And we think that you will see a very modest amount of growth
15:50Over the next five to 10 years
15:52But, The important thing in keeping mind
15:54Since your mature community
15:56What it means is if existing customers
15:59Unfortunately are going have
16:01To bear with any cost increases
16:03Okay
16:07That's right
16:12Obviously
16:14If You get a spike and grow
16:15That will be a real game changer
16:18One of the secrets
16:20Of utility services that
16:23Utility service is primarily based on something called economy's scale
16:25It doesn't cost you twice as much to serve 10,000 customers
16:28If it does 5,500 customers
16:31So if You get big new development
16:33All your existing rate payers
16:36Because means
16:38And we have got a larger customer base
16:40Well managed growth can be very beneficial
16:43From an economic and financial standpoint
16:47To a community
16:49Now, again I don't want to get too far into the weeds
16:51But i do wanna emphasize that one of
16:54The primary components
16:56Of your cost structure is the charge as you pay
17:00To GDRA
17:02There are power supplier
17:04They assess three types
17:07The main charge which is basically an operating rate
17:12It's a rate that covers all of their operations costs
17:16They also implement what was called
17:18Power-post adjustment
17:20Because GDRA generates the power
17:23That they then sell to you
17:26Well,they generate power based on gas
17:28And other natural resources
17:31As we know price and gas in particular
17:33Tencent fluctuating little bit
17:34And so when the price of gas goes up
17:37They adjust their power cost
17:39Adjustment charge upwards to recover
17:42It's unfortunate but it is a reasonable thing for them
17:45I mean they are just as susceptible
17:49To variations in market
17:51So,when that costs off gas
17:53That increases
17:55The cost and then generates
17:57Then they pass through
17:59Finally there was third component
18:01Which is called an extraordinary power cost adjustment
18:05This was implemented in May 2022
18:08After the 50 year storm
18:11That caused a power costs
18:14Despite back to 2021 if you remember that I
18:17Being from Dallas,I certainly remembered it very well
18:21And what It Is about 5cent
18:24Costs or
18:27On sorry 0.05 cent
18:29They added that to your cost
18:33In order To recover some of the extraordinary costs
18:36That they incur during this storm
18:38The good news is,that Cost goes away
18:40And it means
18:42All you are right there and it's going reduce their bills
18:46This chart by here
18:49Is a Chart with Tracks
18:51What GRDA power costs
18:54Perkill A Power has been over last five years
18:56Now energy nerds like me love charts
19:00But there is a couple of very important things to keep in mind
19:05The first thing that's on about 2019
19:08They fundamentally changed the way they charge you for power
19:11They used to have a very high energy and demand charge
19:18And virtually non-existent power costs adjustment charts
19:22The deciding 2019 that they would lower their
19:26Energy & Demand Charge
19:28Put more of the cost into Power Cost Adjustment
19:31There is one actually, it's very beneficial
19:34It means when market cost
19:37Things like gas go down
19:39It has a more immediate effect on you
19:43They are immediately able to pass those savings through
19:47But the result of the planning is still blind
19:50And what it also means that if Power Cost goes up
19:54Has an idea affected me as well
19:56Look,what's happened over last couple years
19:58Power Cost is quite in 2022
20:03Your cost for a 78 cents per KELL hour
20:06They were charging you as a weighted costs
20:09But it's come way down
20:11In the last year, power costs have become laid out
20:14We are talking about what we're meeting today
20:17About where and when I thought energy prices will go to this next
20:20I'm not a real expert on the energy market
20:25But i will tell you in my personal opinion
20:27And then it's couple years
20:30The reason is that we have much more friendly
20:33Energy policy now
20:35We are going to encourage natural gas domestic development
20:40That'll keep natural gaskets down
20:43It goes through and benefits your energy standpoint
20:46Now that's either going to happen or it is not gonna happens
20:50So one of those two things will have
20:52But i'm very optimistic about the future
20:54In terms with what your GRG and costs are
20:56Gonna be over next year too
21:00Okay, this job right here I know let us go on a number done
21:03For couple important thing
21:05This in as forecast for you total cost
21:07Over than x5 years
21:09And current year 2025
21:11Then 4Ks cost up
21:13It has costed me around $13 million
21:16To run your electric utility right now
21:20Of that total, the capital is purchased power
21:23And you have to invest in the administration of
21:26Transmission and distribution system
21:28So as we can see
21:30Those costs are expected
21:32You go up over an x5 years
21:34That's the price
21:36I mean cost of everything goes up like 3.4%
21:39Another costing increase
21:41It will be a reasonable amount
21:42That you're also gonna go up over time
21:45But there's another important thing in here
21:47And that is this chart
21:50Also shows
21:52You are going to be issuing more debt
21:54To fund your capital improvement
21:57So I'm going improve the system and improve it
21:59And thats built into its forecast as well
22:02As we can see
22:04Your total cost of expecting to
22:06Go out from $23 million now
22:08The 28 million dollars in 2030
22:10So lets cut to the chase
22:14What is our recommendation?
22:17We are proposing that you consider implementing a 2 year later plan
22:22Keep in mind, if not any rate adjustments since 2021
22:27You've gone 4 years without a rate adjustment
22:30In time GRDA has done
22:33A couple of cost increases
22:35They're costs were at least 11-15% greater today
22:38Than they work four or two years ago
22:39And so we are, however
22:43Unfortunately it's catching up to you right now
22:46Because of the need
22:48To recover GRDA cost
22:50and a new fund
22:52Your capital improvement
22:54That will improve your quality in this system
22:56We're going recommend that
22:58You do 9% across
23:01The war grade adjustment
23:04In June the PCAX ends
23:06Then Fcent goes down
23:07In March of 2025
23:11Or in March at 126
23:14We recommend that you do a 5% across the war increase
23:18And we recommended to increase your base charge by $4
23:22Accordingly, if they end with
23:25The city's portion for AMI grant
23:28When don't remember any changes
23:30I'm charted your PCA
23:33Your PPA insurance
23:35I don't see it going up any time
23:38So, if you may
23:41It's still around zero
23:44And finally we recommend that
23:47You will be a rate plan for me
23:49There is another war note
23:51We take those lines and add
23:53If they make sense to everybody
23:55Yeah
23:57But when the impact of the known is on
23:58I'm going to show you a couple charts
24:07To share with the impact we'll be on a monthly bill
24:09As of these proposals
24:13So, basically it's 9% increase this year
24:165%, in March at 126
24:20And $4 increased
24:22In 2020-26
24:24A five percent increase
24:26For April or 4 dollar
24:29Increase in 20. 26
24:31Those are the two adjustments
24:33And then you will go down a little bit
24:36As of result, if PCA has
24:38In June or July
24:40So first thing I want to do is
24:44To show your rates and sales
24:46That's what we call a important chart
24:49And that impact on average monthly bill
24:53Your residential customer
24:56Would see
24:58The following
25:01The chart for till a hour
25:03We would go from 10.8 cents
25:06For until our
25:08To 11.0 cents of basically go by 10
25:10For Until Our
25:12In 2026
25:14to build the monthly charts we will
25:17Go 15 dollars in the 405 cents
25:20And per Tillour Hour charge
25:22With Bill for $11 and 80 cents
25:24That's 12 dollars
25:25With the general and commercial chart
25:29You would see similar increases
25:32The General Chart will be
25:34Same, they kill on our charts a little bit higher
25:38That commercial bill
25:40We'd go up by similar amounts
25:42They'll base charge as well
25:44As for Kill On Our Charge
25:46And you can go back to the customer chart again
25:50Sure
25:53I think your rate in that kill ups
25:55But the residential customer chart is $15
25:57And 20 cents a month right now
26:00We would go up
26:0215 dollars in 45 cents
26:05A month and April
26:0725
26:09Then we'd be going to $19.45
26:11In July of 26
26:14The chart for Kill On Our
26:17Is 08083
26:21Or 10.8 cents
26:23For Tillour Hour
26:24And 12.39 cents
26:27For Tillour Hour
26:30In 2026
26:32That's the proposed rate point
26:34Just a bit more than $4
26:41The increase of our chart that would be
26:46The bill is equal to about this
26:51But they're seeing my daily usage
26:54There are lots and features
26:56You go back
26:58So you show an increased amount
27:07Of 5% of these x
27:12What would be the harm
27:14We'd weigh in kill June
27:18The same time at BCA
27:20That was less than impact
27:23But I don't know what that 2 months does for
27:26Is he's into our revenue
27:28Because you're an A and it is pretty sorry
27:32Which i like to slide
27:34Like 3M or get ready
27:36Get two of each shows
27:39You can come off
27:41It makes sense
27:42You're talking about 2
27:44It's a reasonable
27:47Two months of revenues
27:50If you want to kill, yeah
27:52Kill lose the two month for revenue
27:55That is common decision
27:58Decision makers make all
28:00Time and that
28:02We play off an additional revenue
28:04With how will impact your rate figures
28:07Because thats what keep this
28:09Rake making it much more than just financial decisions
28:11They social and community decision as well
28:14Because they's right full of that household
28:17And the question will be how you minimize
28:19That impact
28:21Then it is a way to minimize the impact
28:23By waiting until the BCA X goes away
28:25In momentary adjustment then
28:27Let me show what do impact we'll pay
28:31Remember i said
28:33The average residential customer uses about
28:35865 kill lot hours a month
28:37That's an average
28:40Some people use less
28:43But if you're any 165 kill lot hours a user
28:46By now your paying 111
28:48More like your service
28:51Under the bill
28:54It would go to $117.56
28:57And that increase of 6 dollars and 10 cents
29:01Now, The increased will be
29:03A little bit more
29:04And then if you just work to wait until the BCA
29:09If your input at same time
29:11The BCA X goes away
29:14Then that's a $4.52
29:16Because increase will be 10 dollars
29:18Without the BCAX decline
29:21But once the BCAx decrease of 4 hours
29:24That it gets in
29:26So basically from most rate patterns
29:29They're looking on an increased and they are like your bill
29:31That's 6 dollars a month
29:33If you're 1000 kill lot hours
29:36Feel little bit more
29:38And obviously if he is 2000 kill
29:40There are whole lot of residences
29:42It uses much power and a month
29:45But for us some, right now
29:47A few use 2 000 kill
29:49Ourers who pay 240
29:52Who would be an 11 dollar increase
29:55So I hate to take these very complex financial plans
29:58To do that but if I did
30:00Our tentative for most credit cards
30:03The net impact in the first year
30:05Will be about 6 dollars a month
30:07In second Year it will
30:10It would have been around 9.00
30:12Because they include both the $4 increase
30:14But AMI chart and
30:16And 4% increased or 5%,
30:18Increased in volume
30:22So, 1 person who pays 111
30:25For average usage today
30:27They will go $117
30:30And 8.25
30:32That is 26 dollars
30:34In April of 2026
30:36Is the PC and Expo on off their grid
30:38Yes, this
30:42So one thing that a lot people tell
30:45One in all it
30:47How are rates compared to our neighbors
30:51It has common question
30:53This asked
30:54Because everybody charges for service
30:58For utility service a little bit differently
31:01So it is very difficult to do direct comparison
31:04I wish i could be quite incredibly
31:06But this was the most important thing
31:08To get in with a lot of research
31:11In looking at what other communities
31:14Here and open home are charging
31:18And how they pass through their chargies
31:20Roll it all into their base grid
31:23Some cities make a very quite
31:26A lot of the city is doing
31:30All in this place though
31:32Many cities and home are service by GRDA
31:36So they're looking at increases
31:38For over 10 years
31:40Because that 11% increase
31:42The GODM, women
31:44It wasn't just for you
31:45And so you're going to see a lot of rate increases
31:48You have been electric utility service in the next couple years
31:52But what this chart does right now is
31:54It tries into comparison for 1,000 kilowatt hours
31:57Which has half or more than about
32:00The average usage
32:02A customer here
32:04In my Emma
32:06He says it pays by 135 dollars a month
32:09For that service
32:10For 1,000 kilowatt hours
32:13As you can see that's right about what most of these WTLs pay
32:18Because within 5 to 10 dollars
32:20Most of the WTL is paying for service
32:23So just explain this in a word
32:25We set down and say it's hard to compare everybody's rates
32:28Because we have different factors on their rate
32:30The American I'm all i said now
32:32And call them at different communities
32:34It says something near into my heart
32:36That are weird lot
32:37So it's like if you look at the second chart
32:40Or in a 2nd bar
32:42It says not especially utility authority
32:44That is currently right now
32:46As of today, we did this
32:49We're about 1,000 KWHU
32:52I mean
32:54But because that compared to most cities
32:56The first one
32:59If they do improve their rate increase
33:02With D&N and PCA
33:03I call it the Wild End Study
33:05So that's where we would be at
33:08The interesting thing about common
33:10A lot of their communities is
33:12And one does just do on this
33:14It like, liberty and get in a range rate
33:16Or deselectric
33:18One brought me to the period and raise rates
33:21Lots these communities
33:23But really when people complain
33:26About your utilities been high
33:28They don't take consideration
33:30That everything together
33:31And your water and sanitation
33:34A lot of the other cities don't have that
33:37That's what it is
33:39The other reason why I was elected to say 9% increase
33:42Because when you're saying 99%, many people will think
33:47Look back at their total bill from last month
33:50Oh my god, this can be 90%.
33:53It won't happen
33:55Water wastewater sanitation
33:58All out in change
33:59Also, a couple of two other things I want to point out about this chart
34:05The sweet spot for almost all utilities
34:08Between 120 and 140 dollars per thousand dollar
34:12You're right there
34:16And you are in the Sweet Spot
34:19So find that keep one another very important thing
34:22Many utility's charred rates
34:25That do not cover their costs
34:26So just because of the utilities lower than you
34:31That does not necessarily mean that they run a more efficient operation
34:34Or their cheaper or smarter, burning like this
34:37It might be in there using your general plan to subsidize
34:40Electric utility
34:42You're doing it here
34:44And we will have do them with his plan
34:47Another reason why he's never prepared
34:50To make comparison
34:51And then finally, liability is not putting money into the capital portion of your system
34:59Is that worth it to keep you right low?
35:01If we do this if there's a risk in catastrophic failure
35:04You're system
35:06You know, association will go out and get up
35:08Power lines going down
35:10Then endup with people about power
35:12Particularly on wintertime
35:14Low rates are as objective but it's only objective
35:17So if you happen to know that I'm just about the last chart
35:22Do really want to emphasize
35:24That this rate plan will enable youth to fund
35:29To do debt, become a capital cost
35:32It'll fund the GRD rating crisis
35:34And it would fund even for being available in place in Greece
35:38Because everything costs more than anything
35:40Did yesterday
35:42You're likely certainly not immune
35:44Your residential monthly charges are very much relating to mine
35:46As Tyler said, we're all going to go out
35:51And so I think your increase is right along in the lines of that
35:55Then finally
35:57We'll recommend you get two year plan and revisiting this again
36:00Because let's see what GRD8 does a couple years
36:03You know i hope guarantee market will be very different
36:05Two years into it
36:07See some very encouraging signs about whats happening
36:10In our marketplace right now
36:12That would benefit
36:13You're a junior customer
36:16So as Tyler indicated, we are not asking to make any decisions
36:19That is the informational presentation
36:22We call it an awful lot of numbers and statistics
36:24Probably good for you
36:26To take away time by just being all this
36:29And then coming back at later meeting
36:31But with that I'd be happy to answer
36:33In terms less than those words
36:36Like if like
36:38If don't really want to raise rates in June July
36:39We just said April because you know
36:42That would be my question of that
36:46But if we don't like raising them whenever the PCA expose
36:48I mean, it makes sense
36:50My concern is to not choose from discussion
36:53For instance during going back in April
36:55Yeah i always fit a
36:57Time
37:00Next lady's April first
37:02So with that go wrong then right
37:04Which means
37:05We would have to do a bunch of things
37:08So we'd like it
37:10And that's fine
37:18If the words give us June
37:20I mean, just because they wanted to present
37:24Think about what you need
37:27Make sure Brian and the PCA has any questions
37:30Also, make sure he will form two
37:33Or maybe
37:35Or not, but yeah
37:39Now this was for each of those information
37:41Like
37:43The idea is in 2 years
37:50Yeah
37:53We can see a lot of it
37:59And then just couple things
38:06So on the PCA expose
38:09Obviously those customers say we know
38:12In case I'm not being a sustainable
38:14Because if you see that, and in other words
38:16Something is very near to my heart
38:19If approved this will launch our fiber
38:20So we would say, if they'd be with pledge
38:23Some of our revenue
38:26Our additional revenue
38:28Get the fiber project on the ground
38:30And then you know as year 3 and their studies shows
38:33You might see okay
38:36We have to find something to launch it
38:39I was anticipating or he's anticipating
38:42But probably perception that
38:44It is going
38:45But there is cost of doing business
38:48And they want these things
38:51They are the same eyes and important thing
38:53The fibers, important thing
38:55We have to be able with those costs for what I'm going
39:04Can we do whatever?
39:06Whatever
39:09Whenever
39:11If you know if it's approved or a free system, we would approve
39:13Or maybe that will happen
39:17So in either way
39:18In the future, increase is obviously with a PCA
39:23You want to do it like in an fall or this brain one
39:26Use of just lower
39:31So what you are better than on channel all
39:39For any of these PCAx
40:17And public needs to know that also
40:20Maybe we can put out and release
40:22Right
40:25And this is a lot of time
40:38That I thought it was very important
40:40This will be our ad
40:44We have to let them in dust or dust for each act
40:47It would not be opposed
40:49Because we are ready
40:51You know, copy the general
40:54They generate their own power
40:56So they might get property taxes
40:59Or when you don't need your property taxes
41:01Obviously you can go into the revenue for your luxury or utility
41:06You know, wagmarock
41:08I don't have to present it
41:10For a rating increase
41:13It's important
41:17To be able with that
41:19We are not going
41:21A lot of them had to say
41:23That night
41:25But because business is in this
41:31If they need to sit on the city
42:34Information, like this target
42:37And it's good to make the communities
42:39All know that
42:41It is not only on because I've never heard of people
42:43Because you have a lot of new animals
42:45You can do all their different things
42:50So there are two weeks going up down for city staff
42:53Be prepared with them
42:57Like, we're preparing with numbers
43:00Discussion topics
43:03The only thing i think
43:05They don't be able
43:07To get out of the amperset from overseas
43:18They'll be back for the amperset
43:25That might make it easier on Malinda
43:27You know, in many of those sessions
44:05The first year versus second years
44:07Or dollars
44:10Since you're PCX is falling off
44:14We can do their first year
44:18So like six dollars going up
44:21And then nine dollars a second
44:23Because your PCA X has fallen out
44:25Yeah
44:30I don't want to think this could get me said about that
44:32So you may know when this is on here
44:35You're going to find a way of keeping it
44:37Because people said that
44:39We have them gone
44:41To lots build, too
44:44Explain the people
44:46Well i mean great
44:48That's what I'm saying
44:50It wasn't my young man
44:52Even over home or auto account
44:54The C was just up
44:56Can we tell these all across the country
44:58Which are you?
45:01Because they've really got connected with the same way
45:05April Poly would, middle last part
45:07April Wood probably do better for everybody
45:09Yeah
45:38Thank You
45:47A question of any customer owned generation system service charge
45:52Including the Notland and due dollar in men's generation
46:49This is all a thing we have on our pack
46:51We need to get this either
46:54I'll give it up
46:56So caster owned generation systems
46:58And service charge
47:00Which is a caster owned generation system
47:03We refer to it set up
47:05The individual businesses
47:07Generate their own electricity, using sources or systems
47:09Okay the close-to point
47:11That concept and rather they're lying on utility infrastructure
47:17Such as solar panels, winter
47:19And small scale
47:21But when we talk about this
47:27We want them to encapsulate those other case
47:30Also
47:31The GIF objective of this would be
47:36Customers who have renewable energy
47:39Interaction equipment are not necessarily buying power from us
47:43Instead they're using our infrastructure
47:47They cost associated with maintaining and upgrading these infrastructure
47:50Our substantial
47:53To ensure that we continue delivering strong and efficient service
47:57It's essential to modify customer charge
48:00This adjustable assist us and recovering expenses
48:04Like to operating the image you make infrastructure
48:07Allowing them
48:10To have dependable instance of service
48:13So in their infrastructure
48:15It's not just a service that they're house if we are using
48:17And it's responsible
48:19There is everything from the subsatient transformers
48:21All online there will be working with
48:23That all this stuff has been placed for
48:25They use their solar network
48:28There's a lot of more there is the few that have storage
48:31But for most part they're using our infrastructure
48:34And when
48:36They do,
48:39That
48:41Their not sharing in cost
48:44The FWP
48:46That $13.26
48:48Because we had to set up
48:50We'd be able
48:52To get some other locations
48:57That are doing a GG,
49:01Customer charge in public city is at $45
49:04Parries of 62-20
49:07Still waters and 51.39
49:09And the old 60 dollar
49:11Our current
49:13Now that's separate cars from their regular meter
49:16Charters they have an EG
49:18Just for people to have those systems
49:21Currently we're just talking about it
50:06If you want to put your E-mail,
50:10It's a link in the email
50:12I didn't see it
50:16Because customers don t have solar
50:18For different types of data
50:20That is why
50:22The FWP has been doing it
50:24And they're just trying
50:27To get another transformers
50:31Transwembers cost
50:33$2500 each
50:34And even along the blue down
50:38The customers across
50:40All those people
50:42We saw to maintain a whole system
50:45So that's how power is
50:51That's correct
50:54But they're still using us
50:57Because solar does not work
50:59They generate
51:01Bank up and out
51:02They use that back during the night
51:25And we're not asking it's also with these rights
51:29For another thing to think about
51:31Of they can share their cover in our costs
51:38The good discussion has decided
51:41We move forward
51:43With reading increases, rather than doing one price
51:46Then you need them after raising
51:48Again
51:52We just discussed a final price
51:57In how would she set earlier
51:58We decided to do that
52:01Right then we're not AMI charge
52:04Because they would still have a
52:06They will get their AMI meters
52:08And it'll be able
52:10To see
52:13Their power consumption, what are doing
52:16All the customers had an EMI and thats why
52:18I'm actually trying to import
52:20More paying for it
52:22The $4549
52:25Just start out
52:27Have the discussion rather than like
52:31What we've proven is that
52:33That's a piece of advice
52:36You guess what to do
52:38Because some people don't think about it
52:40Our electric place for police, replace or fire
52:42Or if they're in the box
52:44People will go into the storage and put their hands
52:46We would be able
53:06Different texture of community
53:08For staying on track with the rest
53:11Is there something you want
53:12To like
53:14Back in the same time
53:16We're going to do it once and not
53:18For a very long drive
53:20And then we'll be able
53:22Speak on all of that at this hour hall
53:24But with one price
53:26Not, but right now
53:28Then what they just know is
53:30That's good
53:32What are these signs
53:34Like, you can see
53:36They look bigger than us
53:38Their bigger
53:39They're in Paris, Pileau and smaller
53:42Still are definitely bigger
53:44The EL's probably smaller
53:52We can't read it
54:07See what you guys thought about them
54:09I think there is a need for it
54:11Reserves the very sensitive
54:14It doesn' t matter if they have the customer
54:16That's
54:18There aren''t any of that
54:23Especially to use this same equipment
54:25How do we even keep up that
54:27Much pocket art, let me
54:28Yeah, we have to think that's where the customer is
54:31That because if their solar system
54:34Is working based on a temp power
54:36At night there are solar and all
54:38So you still don't need to feed them back
54:42And they're saying it doesn' t matter
54:44It can be in some of our customers without paying the same price
54:46In its always very convenient
54:48I know when i go out at azure or something
54:52They also but then will not have power
54:56You could see that better
54:58Of course thats away
54:59We want to disconnect there so that they're not back feeding our line
55:03When the power is on, we don't have power
55:09They won t connect from us and you can see it doesn' s going
55:12Don''t work
55:15Because its got a sink with your power
55:17The sine waves all get up and matchup
55:20Back feed put in reals
55:22So if i dont know how this happens
55:24If someone gets used
55:25Whenever a new system comes online
55:28They go back feed test on it
55:30Make sure its not backed feeding our systems
55:34There are still other procedures we have is in the electric department
55:36Keep that from happening and don't want to let you out
55:43Thank You
55:4911
55:5111
55:5312
55:5512
55:5712
55:5948 families, where house located
56:0115
56:12So, Osborne's they have purchased the old adcock
56:19People are home
56:22They've got some new stuff in there
56:26The one thing to do is pretty much adapt it
56:32Its an old structure
56:34And their want build a
56:36Give you little hand out
56:38We read that
56:414800 square foot
56:43They came with a scope of plan
56:53So i'm going to read it off
56:55Their expanding base from 103 south main
56:5815A northwest
57:02Larger opportunity for growth
57:04Retail business
57:07Generations and more sales tax
57:10The rich, rubbish, black and white
57:13An opportunities greatly expand
57:16So we're asking that
57:20We do our normal permit incentive for the building
57:26This doesn't wave, it all
57:29It waves a cost
57:31Like if you normally be from anybody else
57:34They are investing over 700 thousand in
57:38The community of building and the equipment
57:47See
57:49Building will support
57:51I'm not sure exactly
57:56It's going to be a storage for the warehouse
57:59For their equipment
58:01How many employees they'll have
58:03But at day i think that
58:06With investment and buildings just set in there
58:09So im being occupied
58:12Kind of seal on rendering
58:17That area
58:22Basically we're asking for the incentive
58:24For up to 10,000 for their tipping fees
58:27Dumpsters that they use
58:29By the else's dumpsters
58:31They will always other than my Amazon is used
58:46To share it with you
58:48This way we're taking vacation
58:55The way of building permit and inspection fees
58:57So not exceed 205
59:01We are asking before
59:03If i'm at the xc13
59:08Do have a way of refeed
59:10Or 1-3 quarter water tap if applicable
59:12They may use the same one that's there
59:15I would assume just as i told it is
59:18It might be safer to get anyone else
59:24Possibly if
59:28Its a original for their car
59:31Build up
59:34You know how long its built
59:36In old days
59:40Do they not own that old
59:42I don't know if i should build that old building
59:48There is a house
59:51But there are houses next to it
59:55They all have basically the parking lot
59:59Get rid of this funeral home
60:04Do you say
60:11Well, why would they not build
60:14That's what investment and expansion
61:21They have one of three southmen
61:25Is there a car?
61:27Hopefully
61:34Just want to run across from security bank
61:39To the South
61:41Yes, next time
61:43That's 1-0 on
61:46Then I'll go through right next
61:48So
61:50Like i said
61:52Right now
61:54I'm going to go through local stores
61:57They want this one
62:06To be for their low store in the first area
62:27And they're using all local contractors
62:31You just said building will have a versed rib paneling
62:34It's almost going to be metal
62:37All i've seen is rendering
62:42That are all they submitted
62:45But you'll see that the screws and less looking straight
62:47And we don't have any things
62:54Because that sounds to see for the A streets
62:58We wonít be having anything in order
63:01It's got a certain, it has gotta be break
63:17I can ask how they will
63:26Cosmeticly look like
63:44No one built on me
63:46I'm sure its going
63:49To make this a metal mill
63:54Oh my commission
63:57So cool
63:58Hi
64:00I'm Parker
64:03Thank you
64:05Well, the new business
64:07If we need to build this in the course of this
64:12In 2013 it's back report
64:1714 trustee community in office
64:2215 is being continued from Calth Chamber
64:25Reeming the staff room
64:27The purpose and executive session
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We've got the application, I'll remember to all six of them. Let us pray gracious God thank you for our civil servants Thank You For Their Hard Work and Sacrifice May Your Continuously Bless Them in generously give To each Of Then Wise & Descerning Hearts To skillfully serve the people in our city. Give The Mayor City Manager, City Leaders staff and City Council wisdom so that they may solve problems Distinguished Between Right & Wrong And Bring Order, Stability And Prosperity to Our Community Through Jesus Christ Your Son Amen And We've got... ...to the Church of Christ's Son Listen, bring You in for about a GIMPOT and schedule Personal Pairances One that I... Is it a pretty Michigan or something like this? So we had one Alicia Hogan She is not here so little on The number five, quite neless Motion to approve Second Five Six Motion to approve Second Second Five Seven Two minutes from February 25 Twenty five Second Second Second Third Eight Four Special Services And Soldiers for Advanced Meadering Infrastructure To Jesus and Related Signing with the Re to The Trust Manager, or his DIVGME We received five submissions from an AMI Consultants For our FQ2505 In we had a selection team that was Jennifer Watson It's a group that is out of Colorado E-Source came in with the score of 166 Quantitotechnology, 162 PSE 157 SL Cerco 142 and Shiplinger Groups are 140 We recommend awarding this project to e-source And we need your approval Start it off, two start We need to be able To read the meat, what their charges will Be making my payments early Whatever we can work with these guys or stay at The art companies Any source was delayed one I'm just ever been out of a toll on crack Well that would match it So if you could get your hand, yeah That's all cram We're ready for when we do start changing these out Because you know, 100 year old meters let's say People may say But what makes it a real notification So is this coming in hourly great? The first product they are going to be doing In the packet of his Open Water Resource Board We've got three ramps They need like a breakdown This will work So we need to read this going To be the first product in e-source On that price list Because like an hourly rate Capital on it, then results will What would not do things? Like I'm saying We needed to create an instant engineer The estimate of being used for whatever To finalize our grant And so what does your estimated cost But they'll send us a call Before you go into the news We'll do a lot of them I don't see the number If you want to go into this What we're using for meters itself From here, if it's not anything You can say that but That might be something like a final Definitely cost So when they could take us below that Six hours, and all This is covered And we'll be back from Yeah, so the way it's a big community match No WV is low We're bringing in tonight for approval I don't see this and they can show that R-RT My times On our accused request recallifications It''s just Having each consultant give us what their best prices are But we have to do it's qualifying And then you had To see if they're rates are acceptable It''s not like your negotiating Between two different companies or anything On this type of process The laws were set We picked the best ones to save us money Working with all these Different brands and technologies This price is what Like Tyler was saying Once you get into When all of the things that we''re going to buy Are set, how they're setting up That's only what You can really give a real good grip on So who would be in charge Of this project? He'd even lead one to getting with these source Yeah, they are around It' s always stealing it from me again I got you They're going to start trying To make sure they keep the clothes on What are doing it? Yeah, that''s probably this number of my cutting We're gonna have a... ...we´ve been saying what is he gone and cost The great R-RT You do up for them meters Or not taking seed price Do we want more questions I'll second So, I'm going to start You jump there I can't get this real Then after that's from for a while From an eye in presentation And the discussion of electric The utility rate study by Will Dan Financial Services So just as we've already know There''s a larger pocket in your folder That uses it tomorrow And we're not going to do anything about getting more G-RT You are either increasing Thank you very much Chairman, Trustee's my name is Dan Jackson On Vice President of Will dan Financial Services We've had the approval It''s being a water wastewater and electric freight consultants For doing it on 20 years now I appreciate The opportunity To talk with us We appreciate all the confidence You've shown in myself and my firm Over to last two decades It's always a pleasure coming up here I'm actually based on Plano Texas And like i said we''ve done probably about seven or eight Of these types of studies for city over The past 20 years All our study is at
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NOTICE OF REGULAR MEETING AND AGENDA OF THE MIAMI SPECIAL UTILITY AUTHORITY (MSUA) Tuesday, March 25, 2025 5:30 p.m. MIAMI CIVIC CENTER 129 5th Avenue Northwest, Miami, Oklahoma Filed in the Office of the City Clerk and displayed in the main lobby of the Miami Civic Center and by posting on www.miamiokla.net. THE MSUA MAY DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND VOTE ON ANY ITEM LISTED IN THIS AGENDA: 1. Call to Order Chairman Parker 2. Invocation by Reverend of All Saints Episcopal Church Mary Susan Whaley 3. Pledge of Allegiance Chairman Parker 4. Public Input and Unscheduled Personal Appearances Each person will be limited to three minutes. The purpose of this agenda item is to provide an opportunity for citizens’ comments and public announcements. In keeping with the principals of the Oklahoma Open Meeting Act, Council [or commission, authority or board] members and city staff will not engage in discussion or take any action under this agenda item. If you seek discussion or further inquiry, please contact your Council Member, the Mayor or the office of the city manager. Responses to citizen comments, if any, will occur under an applicable Agenda item at this or a future public meeting, or a response may be given by a phone call, personal meeting or a posting on the city website: www.miamiokla.net 5. *Action Item* Claims Trustees Claims List Credit Cards 6. *Action Item* Claims for Vance Auto Group Trustees Claims List 7. *Action Item* Minutes: February 25, 2025 (Regular) and March 04, 2025 (Regular) Trustees Minutes: February 25, 2025 Minutes: March 04, 2025 8. *Action Item* Award Request for Qualifications (RFQ) 25-05 for Professional Services Consultant for Advanced Metering Infrastructure to E-Source and Give Related Signing Authority to the Trust Manager or his Designee Tyler Cline/Derric Lollar/Brian Brassfield BA E-Source Response PSE Response SL serco Response The Shpigler Group Response Additional Questions and Answers Score Sheets Price List Solicitation Packet 9. Presentation and Discussion of Electric Utility Rate Study by Willdan Financial Services Tyler Cline/Derric Lollar/Dan Jackson Discussion of any Customer Owned Generation System Service Charge Including but not Limited to Solar and Wind Generation Derric Lollar BA 11. *Action Item* Resolution CC2025-02/MSUA2023-01 Authorizing Community Financial Support and Fee Waiver to Osborn Drug for the Development of a 4,800 Sq. Ft. Warehouse Located at 15 A St NW Travis Jones BA Resolution Rendering 12. *Potential Action Item* Other New Business, if any, Which has Arisen Since the Posting of the Agenda and Could not Have Been Anticipated Prior to the Time of Posting (25 O.S. § 311(9)) Trustees/Tyler Cline 13. Staff Reports (Written report included in packet, if available staff is present for questions) Trustees Pollution Control Pollution Control Annual Report Solid Waste 14. Trustee Community Announcements Trustees 15. The Meeting Will be Continued From the Council Chambers and Reconvened in the Staff Room for Purposes of the Executive Session at the Completion of the Regular Meeting of the Miami City Council Chairman Parker 16. Executive Session in the Staff Room to Review Previous Executive Session Minutes Trustees 17. Executive Session in the Staff Room Pursuant to 25 O.S. §307(B)(4) for Purposes of Confidential Communications Between the Trust and its Attorney Concerning a Pending Investigation, Claim, or Action, to wit: City of Miami, et al., v. GRDA CJ-08-619 and F.E.R.C. Project No. 1494 Trustees 18. The Meeting Will be Reconvened in the Staff Room After the Executive Session Trustees 19. *Possible Action Item* on Matters Addressed in Executive Session Agenda Item Number 17 Trustees 20. *Action Item* Adjournment Trustees The MSUA Board of Trustees for the City of Miami is committed to making this meeting accessible to all citizens. If special assistance or accommodations are required, please submit your request to the City Manager's office. We also ask that those in attendance place all electronic devices on silent. Thank you.