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[00:00] We've got the application, I'll remember to all six of them.

[00:07] Let us pray gracious God thank you for our civil servants

[00:20] Thank You For Their Hard Work and Sacrifice

[00:24] May Your Continuously Bless Them in generously give To each Of Then Wise & Descerning Hearts

[00:28] To skillfully serve the people in our city. Give The Mayor City Manager, City Leaders staff and

[00:36] City Council wisdom so that they may solve problems

[00:40] Distinguished Between Right & Wrong

[00:44] And Bring Order, Stability

[00:46] And Prosperity to Our Community

[00:49] Through Jesus Christ Your Son

[00:51] Amen

[01:01] And We've got...

[01:03] ...to the Church of Christ's Son

[01:13] Listen, bring You in for about a GIMPOT and schedule Personal Pairances

[01:23] One that I...

[01:25] Is it a pretty Michigan or something like this?

[01:27] So we had one Alicia Hogan

[01:31] She is not here so little on

[01:34] The number five, quite neless

[01:38] Motion to approve

[01:40] Second

[01:42] Five

[01:44] Six

[01:46] Motion to approve

[01:50] Second

[01:53] Second

[01:55] Five

[01:58] Seven

[02:00] Two minutes from February 25

[02:02] Twenty five

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[02:13] Third

[02:15] Eight

[02:18] Four

[02:19] Special Services

[02:21] And Soldiers for Advanced Meadering Infrastructure

[02:24] To Jesus and Related Signing with the Re

[02:27] to The Trust Manager, or his DIVGME

[02:32] We received five submissions from an AMI Consultants

[02:36] For our FQ2505

[02:39] In we had a selection team that was Jennifer Watson

[03:14] It's a group that is out of Colorado

[03:18] E-Source came in with the score of 166

[03:22] Quantitotechnology, 162 PSE

[03:25] 157 SL Cerco

[03:28] 142 and Shiplinger

[03:30] Groups are 140

[03:33] We recommend awarding this project to e-source

[03:37] And we need your approval

[03:48] Start it off, two start

[04:25] We need to be able

[04:28] To read the meat, what their charges will

[04:32] Be making my payments early

[04:35] Whatever we can work with these guys or stay at

[04:38] The art companies

[04:40] Any source was delayed one

[04:44] I'm just ever been out of a toll on crack

[04:46] Well that would match it

[04:48] So if you could get your hand, yeah

[04:52] That's all cram

[04:53] We're ready for when we do start changing these out

[04:56] Because you know, 100 year old meters let's say

[04:59] People may say

[05:07] But what makes it a real notification

[05:13] So is this coming in hourly great?

[05:16] The first product they are going to be doing

[05:19] In the packet of his

[05:21] Open Water Resource Board

[05:23] We've got three ramps

[05:25] They need like a breakdown

[05:29] This will work

[05:30] So we need to read this going

[05:33] To be the first product in e-source

[05:35] On that price list

[05:37] Because like an hourly rate

[05:39] Capital on it, then results will

[05:41] What would not do things?

[05:43] Like I'm saying

[05:46] We needed to create an instant engineer

[05:48] The estimate of being used for whatever

[05:50] To finalize our grant

[05:52] And so what does your estimated cost

[05:54] But they'll send us a call

[05:56] Before you go into the news

[05:57] We'll do a lot of them

[05:59] I don't see the number

[06:03] If you want to go into this

[06:05] What we're using for meters itself

[06:08] From here, if it's not anything

[06:11] You can say that but

[06:13] That might be something like a final

[06:16] Definitely cost

[06:18] So when they could take us below that

[06:21] Six hours, and all

[06:24] This is covered

[06:25] And we'll be back from

[06:27] Yeah, so the way it's a big community match

[06:30] No WV is low

[06:34] We're bringing in tonight for approval

[06:36] I don't see this and they can show that

[06:38] R-RT

[06:40] My times

[06:49] On our accused request recallifications

[06:52] It''s just

[07:03] Having each consultant give us what their best prices are

[07:07] But we have to do it's qualifying

[07:10] And then you had

[07:12] To see if they're rates are acceptable

[07:14] It''s not like your negotiating

[07:16] Between two different companies or anything

[07:20] On this type of process

[07:22] The laws were set

[07:25] We picked the best ones to save us money

[07:28] Working with all these

[07:30] Different brands and technologies

[07:33] This price is what

[07:35] Like Tyler was saying

[07:37] Once you get into

[07:39] When all of the things that we''re going to buy

[07:42] Are set, how they're setting up

[07:44] That's only what

[07:46] You can really give a real good grip on

[07:50] So who would be in charge

[07:53] Of this project?

[07:55] He'd even lead one to getting with these source

[07:58] Yeah, they are around

[08:00] It' s always stealing it from me again

[08:04] I got you

[08:08] They're going to start trying

[08:13] To make sure they keep the clothes on

[08:16] What are doing it?

[08:19] Yeah, that''s probably this number of my cutting

[08:22] We're gonna have a...

[08:25] ...we´ve been saying what is he gone and cost

[08:27] The great R-RT

[08:29] You do up for them meters

[08:31] Or not taking seed price

[08:36] Do we want more questions

[08:38] I'll second

[08:42] So, I'm going to start

[08:46] You jump there

[08:48] I can't get this real

[08:51] Then after that's from for a while

[08:53] From an eye in presentation

[08:58] And the discussion of electric

[09:00] The utility rate study by Will Dan

[09:02] Financial Services

[09:05] So just as we've already know

[09:07] There''s a larger pocket in your folder

[09:09] That uses it tomorrow

[09:10] And we're not going to do anything about getting more G-RT

[09:17] You are either increasing

[09:20] Thank you very much

[09:23] Chairman, Trustee's my name is Dan Jackson

[09:26] On Vice President of Will dan Financial Services

[09:29] We've had the approval

[09:31] It''s being a water wastewater and electric freight consultants

[09:34] For doing it on 20 years now

[09:36] I appreciate

[09:38] The opportunity

[09:40] To talk with us

[09:41] We appreciate all the confidence

[09:44] You've shown in myself and my firm

[09:47] Over to last two decades

[09:49] It's always a pleasure coming up here

[09:51] I'm actually based on Plano Texas

[09:53] And like i said we''ve done probably about seven or eight

[09:56] Of these types of studies for city over

[09:58] The past 20 years

[10:00] All our study is at something very much incoming

[10:03] Not just are studies from Miami

[10:05] But, other cities around Oklahoma

[10:07] Throughout this southwest

[10:08] And that is we are trying to help utilities such as yours

[10:12] Deal with the inevitable cost increases

[10:16] To come providing utility service

[10:19] But try and, um

[10:21] It's a sensitive topic everybody wants

[10:23] Talk about in it

[10:25] Increasing rates for electric services

[10:27] Or water wastewater service

[10:29] Nobody want talk of out

[10:31] Because nobody wanted pay more

[10:33] No one has paid much money at any time

[10:35] However

[10:36] You have to keep a couple of very important things in mind

[10:40] One is that you try and run your electric utility like business

[10:44] And the rates at each other for service

[10:47] To cover all costs providing their services

[10:50] Those cost are going up

[10:53] Therefore, if we go on trying

[10:56] Or do they want it advantage over many businesses

[11:01] That's not just having an impact

[11:03] You're just in this to recover your costs

[11:06] And so if you are rates don't cover

[11:09] They know essentially, they sell their product for a loss

[11:12] That's not good business practice

[11:15] The other thing that we keep very much

[11:17] Is it always an goal of any utility

[11:22] To try and keeps rate as low

[11:24] Obviously

[11:26] We want the opportunity

[11:29] Is that utility the balance is

[11:32] The desire to keep rates low

[11:34] With a need to invest in your system

[11:37] To ensure you provide an acceptable and reliable

[11:41] And consistent quality of service

[11:44] Electric systems like all other assets

[11:47] Age, they have where out

[11:49] They will be replaced

[11:51] You'll get invested

[11:53] In order for sure

[11:56] I do work for utilities that have incredibly low rates

[12:02] But they are not putting any money into their system

[12:05] Not only is the quality of systems declining

[12:09] It's also a customer risk

[12:12] One thing you will see about

[12:15] The rate to close up is

[12:19] 28 million dollars in investment

[12:22] In future, and then there won't be

[12:25] The advantage of running an electric utility

[12:28] And that is, the contributions you request from your rate payers

[12:32] Go right back into this system itself

[12:35] What they are really doing

[12:37] Investing in future

[12:39] In ensuring

[12:41] Is a systems reliable as one

[12:45] I'll try to go through

[12:47] This presentation relatively quickly

[12:49] But

[12:50] I want to emphasize a couple of very important things here

[12:54] One is that there are four factors

[12:57] That they're driving the need for rate plan

[13:00] You try and run your operation like business

[13:03] No businesses immune from inflation

[13:07] And other factors you can do

[13:09] Inflation

[13:11] Is causing cost-to go up

[13:13] Like any business, but it has no choice

[13:15] But pass those costs through your ultimate customers

[13:17] Secondly, your largest expenditure by far

[13:22] Is the power you purchased from GRDA

[13:25] GRDA has recently implemented an 11% increase in their costs

[13:29] And they've already talked about doing another 4%,

[13:31] Increase later this year

[13:33] So once again

[13:35] You have to pass those cost through

[13:37] Third as I mentioned earlier

[13:38] You have your step as outlined

[13:43] Need for 28 million dollars of investment

[13:46] In maintaining overhauling, repairing and replacing

[13:50] Your electric system transmission in distribution assets

[13:54] And that will improve the quality

[13:56] Of service but

[13:58] That has to be paid for somehow

[14:00] This plan is going on to do this

[14:03] Finally

[14:05] As Tyler indicated earlier

[14:06] I have a program to replace your AMI meters

[14:10] A lot of that is going

[14:12] To be granted funded but you are

[14:14] Going back and pay portion

[14:16] And this rate plan will cover it as well

[14:18] So these four factors or what's driving the need for

[14:21] You implement any new rate plan

[14:23] Just want quickly go over

[14:25] What do people paid for electric service here?

[14:29] Well, primarily

[14:30] The average price is about 10.8 cents

[14:32] First of all, what hour?

[14:34] the average wise initial customer uses

[14:36] Some are between 800 and 900 kilowatt hours

[14:39] A month

[14:41] Your commercial

[14:46] And your industrial customers have slightly higher minimum charge

[14:48] Any other large quality

[14:51] PPA or purchase prices just like that

[14:54] You can buy a lot

[14:56] And that is going to be a big amount of charge

[14:58] There was also another charged called APPA

[15:00] Or purchased price adjustment

[15:03] That has indicated with the charge right now

[15:05] Because, mercifully

[15:08] The cost per power

[15:10] Has come down and we said,

[15:12] And you have not had

[15:17] So what are done

[15:20] We actually did 10 year forecast

[15:22] And that is what's going to form the basis for rate recommendations

[15:26] Well, one of

[15:28] The primary inputs in any forecast

[15:31] Is expected growth

[15:33] My amazement has a very mature community

[15:35] You're not seeing allotate growth

[15:37] This chart right here actually shows

[15:39] Actually reduced your total number

[15:42] Of electric customers by about 200 over last six years

[15:45] We think it was bought up now

[15:46] And we think that you will see a very modest amount of growth

[15:50] Over the next five to 10 years

[15:52] But, The important thing in keeping mind

[15:54] Since your mature community

[15:56] What it means is if existing customers

[15:59] Unfortunately are going have

[16:01] To bear with any cost increases

[16:03] Okay

[16:07] That's right

[16:12] Obviously

[16:14] If You get a spike and grow

[16:15] That will be a real game changer

[16:18] One of the secrets

[16:20] Of utility services that

[16:23] Utility service is primarily based on something called economy's scale

[16:25] It doesn't cost you twice as much to serve 10,000 customers

[16:28] If it does 5,500 customers

[16:31] So if You get big new development

[16:33] All your existing rate payers

[16:36] Because means

[16:38] And we have got a larger customer base

[16:40] Well managed growth can be very beneficial

[16:43] From an economic and financial standpoint

[16:47] To a community

[16:49] Now, again I don't want to get too far into the weeds

[16:51] But i do wanna emphasize that one of

[16:54] The primary components

[16:56] Of your cost structure is the charge as you pay

[17:00] To GDRA

[17:02] There are power supplier

[17:04] They assess three types

[17:07] The main charge which is basically an operating rate

[17:12] It's a rate that covers all of their operations costs

[17:16] They also implement what was called

[17:18] Power-post adjustment

[17:20] Because GDRA generates the power

[17:23] That they then sell to you

[17:26] Well,they generate power based on gas

[17:28] And other natural resources

[17:31] As we know price and gas in particular

[17:33] Tencent fluctuating little bit

[17:34] And so when the price of gas goes up

[17:37] They adjust their power cost

[17:39] Adjustment charge upwards to recover

[17:42] It's unfortunate but it is a reasonable thing for them

[17:45] I mean they are just as susceptible

[17:49] To variations in market

[17:51] So,when that costs off gas

[17:53] That increases

[17:55] The cost and then generates

[17:57] Then they pass through

[17:59] Finally there was third component

[18:01] Which is called an extraordinary power cost adjustment

[18:05] This was implemented in May 2022

[18:08] After the 50 year storm

[18:11] That caused a power costs

[18:14] Despite back to 2021 if you remember that I

[18:17] Being from Dallas,I certainly remembered it very well

[18:21] And what It Is about 5cent

[18:24] Costs or

[18:27] On sorry 0.05 cent

[18:29] They added that to your cost

[18:33] In order To recover some of the extraordinary costs

[18:36] That they incur during this storm

[18:38] The good news is,that Cost goes away

[18:40] And it means

[18:42] All you are right there and it's going reduce their bills

[18:46] This chart by here

[18:49] Is a Chart with Tracks

[18:51] What GRDA power costs

[18:54] Perkill A Power has been over last five years

[18:56] Now energy nerds like me love charts

[19:00] But there is a couple of very important things to keep in mind

[19:05] The first thing that's on about 2019

[19:08] They fundamentally changed the way they charge you for power

[19:11] They used to have a very high energy and demand charge

[19:18] And virtually non-existent power costs adjustment charts

[19:22] The deciding 2019 that they would lower their

[19:26] Energy & Demand Charge

[19:28] Put more of the cost into Power Cost Adjustment

[19:31] There is one actually, it's very beneficial

[19:34] It means when market cost

[19:37] Things like gas go down

[19:39] It has a more immediate effect on you

[19:43] They are immediately able to pass those savings through

[19:47] But the result of the planning is still blind

[19:50] And what it also means that if Power Cost goes up

[19:54] Has an idea affected me as well

[19:56] Look,what's happened over last couple years

[19:58] Power Cost is quite in 2022

[20:03] Your cost for a 78 cents per KELL hour

[20:06] They were charging you as a weighted costs

[20:09] But it's come way down

[20:11] In the last year, power costs have become laid out

[20:14] We are talking about what we're meeting today

[20:17] About where and when I thought energy prices will go to this next

[20:20] I'm not a real expert on the energy market

[20:25] But i will tell you in my personal opinion

[20:27] And then it's couple years

[20:30] The reason is that we have much more friendly

[20:33] Energy policy now

[20:35] We are going to encourage natural gas domestic development

[20:40] That'll keep natural gaskets down

[20:43] It goes through and benefits your energy standpoint

[20:46] Now that's either going to happen or it is not gonna happens

[20:50] So one of those two things will have

[20:52] But i'm very optimistic about the future

[20:54] In terms with what your GRG and costs are

[20:56] Gonna be over next year too

[21:00] Okay, this job right here I know let us go on a number done

[21:03] For couple important thing

[21:05] This in as forecast for you total cost

[21:07] Over than x5 years

[21:09] And current year 2025

[21:11] Then 4Ks cost up

[21:13] It has costed me around $13 million

[21:16] To run your electric utility right now

[21:20] Of that total, the capital is purchased power

[21:23] And you have to invest in the administration of

[21:26] Transmission and distribution system

[21:28] So as we can see

[21:30] Those costs are expected

[21:32] You go up over an x5 years

[21:34] That's the price

[21:36] I mean cost of everything goes up like 3.4%

[21:39] Another costing increase

[21:41] It will be a reasonable amount

[21:42] That you're also gonna go up over time

[21:45] But there's another important thing in here

[21:47] And that is this chart

[21:50] Also shows

[21:52] You are going to be issuing more debt

[21:54] To fund your capital improvement

[21:57] So I'm going improve the system and improve it

[21:59] And thats built into its forecast as well

[22:02] As we can see

[22:04] Your total cost of expecting to

[22:06] Go out from $23 million now

[22:08] The 28 million dollars in 2030

[22:10] So lets cut to the chase

[22:14] What is our recommendation?

[22:17] We are proposing that you consider implementing a 2 year later plan

[22:22] Keep in mind, if not any rate adjustments since 2021

[22:27] You've gone 4 years without a rate adjustment

[22:30] In time GRDA has done

[22:33] A couple of cost increases

[22:35] They're costs were at least 11-15% greater today

[22:38] Than they work four or two years ago

[22:39] And so we are, however

[22:43] Unfortunately it's catching up to you right now

[22:46] Because of the need

[22:48] To recover GRDA cost

[22:50] and a new fund

[22:52] Your capital improvement

[22:54] That will improve your quality in this system

[22:56] We're going recommend that

[22:58] You do 9% across

[23:01] The war grade adjustment

[23:04] In June the PCAX ends

[23:06] Then Fcent goes down

[23:07] In March of 2025

[23:11] Or in March at 126

[23:14] We recommend that you do a 5% across the war increase

[23:18] And we recommended to increase your base charge by $4

[23:22] Accordingly, if they end with

[23:25] The city's portion for AMI grant

[23:28] When don't remember any changes

[23:30] I'm charted your PCA

[23:33] Your PPA insurance

[23:35] I don't see it going up any time

[23:38] So, if you may

[23:41] It's still around zero

[23:44] And finally we recommend that

[23:47] You will be a rate plan for me

[23:49] There is another war note

[23:51] We take those lines and add

[23:53] If they make sense to everybody

[23:55] Yeah

[23:57] But when the impact of the known is on

[23:58] I'm going to show you a couple charts

[24:07] To share with the impact we'll be on a monthly bill

[24:09] As of these proposals

[24:13] So, basically it's 9% increase this year

[24:16] 5%, in March at 126

[24:20] And $4 increased

[24:22] In 2020-26

[24:24] A five percent increase

[24:26] For April or 4 dollar

[24:29] Increase in 20. 26

[24:31] Those are the two adjustments

[24:33] And then you will go down a little bit

[24:36] As of result, if PCA has

[24:38] In June or July

[24:40] So first thing I want to do is

[24:44] To show your rates and sales

[24:46] That's what we call a important chart

[24:49] And that impact on average monthly bill

[24:53] Your residential customer

[24:56] Would see

[24:58] The following

[25:01] The chart for till a hour

[25:03] We would go from 10.8 cents

[25:06] For until our

[25:08] To 11.0 cents of basically go by 10

[25:10] For Until Our

[25:12] In 2026

[25:14] to build the monthly charts we will

[25:17] Go 15 dollars in the 405 cents

[25:20] And per Tillour Hour charge

[25:22] With Bill for $11 and 80 cents

[25:24] That's 12 dollars

[25:25] With the general and commercial chart

[25:29] You would see similar increases

[25:32] The General Chart will be

[25:34] Same, they kill on our charts a little bit higher

[25:38] That commercial bill

[25:40] We'd go up by similar amounts

[25:42] They'll base charge as well

[25:44] As for Kill On Our Charge

[25:46] And you can go back to the customer chart again

[25:50] Sure

[25:53] I think your rate in that kill ups

[25:55] But the residential customer chart is $15

[25:57] And 20 cents a month right now

[26:00] We would go up

[26:02] 15 dollars in 45 cents

[26:05] A month and April

[26:07] 25

[26:09] Then we'd be going to $19.45

[26:11] In July of 26

[26:14] The chart for Kill On Our

[26:17] Is 08083

[26:21] Or 10.8 cents

[26:23] For Tillour Hour

[26:24] And 12.39 cents

[26:27] For Tillour Hour

[26:30] In 2026

[26:32] That's the proposed rate point

[26:34] Just a bit more than $4

[26:41] The increase of our chart that would be

[26:46] The bill is equal to about this

[26:51] But they're seeing my daily usage

[26:54] There are lots and features

[26:56] You go back

[26:58] So you show an increased amount

[27:07] Of 5% of these x

[27:12] What would be the harm

[27:14] We'd weigh in kill June

[27:18] The same time at BCA

[27:20] That was less than impact

[27:23] But I don't know what that 2 months does for

[27:26] Is he's into our revenue

[27:28] Because you're an A and it is pretty sorry

[27:32] Which i like to slide

[27:34] Like 3M or get ready

[27:36] Get two of each shows

[27:39] You can come off

[27:41] It makes sense

[27:42] You're talking about 2

[27:44] It's a reasonable

[27:47] Two months of revenues

[27:50] If you want to kill, yeah

[27:52] Kill lose the two month for revenue

[27:55] That is common decision

[27:58] Decision makers make all

[28:00] Time and that

[28:02] We play off an additional revenue

[28:04] With how will impact your rate figures

[28:07] Because thats what keep this

[28:09] Rake making it much more than just financial decisions

[28:11] They social and community decision as well

[28:14] Because they's right full of that household

[28:17] And the question will be how you minimize

[28:19] That impact

[28:21] Then it is a way to minimize the impact

[28:23] By waiting until the BCA X goes away

[28:25] In momentary adjustment then

[28:27] Let me show what do impact we'll pay

[28:31] Remember i said

[28:33] The average residential customer uses about

[28:35] 865 kill lot hours a month

[28:37] That's an average

[28:40] Some people use less

[28:43] But if you're any 165 kill lot hours a user

[28:46] By now your paying 111

[28:48] More like your service

[28:51] Under the bill

[28:54] It would go to $117.56

[28:57] And that increase of 6 dollars and 10 cents

[29:01] Now, The increased will be

[29:03] A little bit more

[29:04] And then if you just work to wait until the BCA

[29:09] If your input at same time

[29:11] The BCA X goes away

[29:14] Then that's a $4.52

[29:16] Because increase will be 10 dollars

[29:18] Without the BCAX decline

[29:21] But once the BCAx decrease of 4 hours

[29:24] That it gets in

[29:26] So basically from most rate patterns

[29:29] They're looking on an increased and they are like your bill

[29:31] That's 6 dollars a month

[29:33] If you're 1000 kill lot hours

[29:36] Feel little bit more

[29:38] And obviously if he is 2000 kill

[29:40] There are whole lot of residences

[29:42] It uses much power and a month

[29:45] But for us some, right now

[29:47] A few use 2 000 kill

[29:49] Ourers who pay 240

[29:52] Who would be an 11 dollar increase

[29:55] So I hate to take these very complex financial plans

[29:58] To do that but if I did

[30:00] Our tentative for most credit cards

[30:03] The net impact in the first year

[30:05] Will be about 6 dollars a month

[30:07] In second Year it will

[30:10] It would have been around 9.00

[30:12] Because they include both the $4 increase

[30:14] But AMI chart and

[30:16] And 4% increased or 5%,

[30:18] Increased in volume

[30:22] So, 1 person who pays 111

[30:25] For average usage today

[30:27] They will go $117

[30:30] And 8.25

[30:32] That is 26 dollars

[30:34] In April of 2026

[30:36] Is the PC and Expo on off their grid

[30:38] Yes, this

[30:42] So one thing that a lot people tell

[30:45] One in all it

[30:47] How are rates compared to our neighbors

[30:51] It has common question

[30:53] This asked

[30:54] Because everybody charges for service

[30:58] For utility service a little bit differently

[31:01] So it is very difficult to do direct comparison

[31:04] I wish i could be quite incredibly

[31:06] But this was the most important thing

[31:08] To get in with a lot of research

[31:11] In looking at what other communities

[31:14] Here and open home are charging

[31:18] And how they pass through their chargies

[31:20] Roll it all into their base grid

[31:23] Some cities make a very quite

[31:26] A lot of the city is doing

[31:30] All in this place though

[31:32] Many cities and home are service by GRDA

[31:36] So they're looking at increases

[31:38] For over 10 years

[31:40] Because that 11% increase

[31:42] The GODM, women

[31:44] It wasn't just for you

[31:45] And so you're going to see a lot of rate increases

[31:48] You have been electric utility service in the next couple years

[31:52] But what this chart does right now is

[31:54] It tries into comparison for 1,000 kilowatt hours

[31:57] Which has half or more than about

[32:00] The average usage

[32:02] A customer here

[32:04] In my Emma

[32:06] He says it pays by 135 dollars a month

[32:09] For that service

[32:10] For 1,000 kilowatt hours

[32:13] As you can see that's right about what most of these WTLs pay

[32:18] Because within 5 to 10 dollars

[32:20] Most of the WTL is paying for service

[32:23] So just explain this in a word

[32:25] We set down and say it's hard to compare everybody's rates

[32:28] Because we have different factors on their rate

[32:30] The American I'm all i said now

[32:32] And call them at different communities

[32:34] It says something near into my heart

[32:36] That are weird lot

[32:37] So it's like if you look at the second chart

[32:40] Or in a 2nd bar

[32:42] It says not especially utility authority

[32:44] That is currently right now

[32:46] As of today, we did this

[32:49] We're about 1,000 KWHU

[32:52] I mean

[32:54] But because that compared to most cities

[32:56] The first one

[32:59] If they do improve their rate increase

[33:02] With D&N and PCA

[33:03] I call it the Wild End Study

[33:05] So that's where we would be at

[33:08] The interesting thing about common

[33:10] A lot of their communities is

[33:12] And one does just do on this

[33:14] It like, liberty and get in a range rate

[33:16] Or deselectric

[33:18] One brought me to the period and raise rates

[33:21] Lots these communities

[33:23] But really when people complain

[33:26] About your utilities been high

[33:28] They don't take consideration

[33:30] That everything together

[33:31] And your water and sanitation

[33:34] A lot of the other cities don't have that

[33:37] That's what it is

[33:39] The other reason why I was elected to say 9% increase

[33:42] Because when you're saying 99%, many people will think

[33:47] Look back at their total bill from last month

[33:50] Oh my god, this can be 90%.

[33:53] It won't happen

[33:55] Water wastewater sanitation

[33:58] All out in change

[33:59] Also, a couple of two other things I want to point out about this chart

[34:05] The sweet spot for almost all utilities

[34:08] Between 120 and 140 dollars per thousand dollar

[34:12] You're right there

[34:16] And you are in the Sweet Spot

[34:19] So find that keep one another very important thing

[34:22] Many utility's charred rates

[34:25] That do not cover their costs

[34:26] So just because of the utilities lower than you

[34:31] That does not necessarily mean that they run a more efficient operation

[34:34] Or their cheaper or smarter, burning like this

[34:37] It might be in there using your general plan to subsidize

[34:40] Electric utility

[34:42] You're doing it here

[34:44] And we will have do them with his plan

[34:47] Another reason why he's never prepared

[34:50] To make comparison

[34:51] And then finally, liability is not putting money into the capital portion of your system

[34:59] Is that worth it to keep you right low?

[35:01] If we do this if there's a risk in catastrophic failure

[35:04] You're system

[35:06] You know, association will go out and get up

[35:08] Power lines going down

[35:10] Then endup with people about power

[35:12] Particularly on wintertime

[35:14] Low rates are as objective but it's only objective

[35:17] So if you happen to know that I'm just about the last chart

[35:22] Do really want to emphasize

[35:24] That this rate plan will enable youth to fund

[35:29] To do debt, become a capital cost

[35:32] It'll fund the GRD rating crisis

[35:34] And it would fund even for being available in place in Greece

[35:38] Because everything costs more than anything

[35:40] Did yesterday

[35:42] You're likely certainly not immune

[35:44] Your residential monthly charges are very much relating to mine

[35:46] As Tyler said, we're all going to go out

[35:51] And so I think your increase is right along in the lines of that

[35:55] Then finally

[35:57] We'll recommend you get two year plan and revisiting this again

[36:00] Because let's see what GRD8 does a couple years

[36:03] You know i hope guarantee market will be very different

[36:05] Two years into it

[36:07] See some very encouraging signs about whats happening

[36:10] In our marketplace right now

[36:12] That would benefit

[36:13] You're a junior customer

[36:16] So as Tyler indicated, we are not asking to make any decisions

[36:19] That is the informational presentation

[36:22] We call it an awful lot of numbers and statistics

[36:24] Probably good for you

[36:26] To take away time by just being all this

[36:29] And then coming back at later meeting

[36:31] But with that I'd be happy to answer

[36:33] In terms less than those words

[36:36] Like if like

[36:38] If don't really want to raise rates in June July

[36:39] We just said April because you know

[36:42] That would be my question of that

[36:46] But if we don't like raising them whenever the PCA expose

[36:48] I mean, it makes sense

[36:50] My concern is to not choose from discussion

[36:53] For instance during going back in April

[36:55] Yeah i always fit a

[36:57] Time

[37:00] Next lady's April first

[37:02] So with that go wrong then right

[37:04] Which means

[37:05] We would have to do a bunch of things

[37:08] So we'd like it

[37:10] And that's fine

[37:18] If the words give us June

[37:20] I mean, just because they wanted to present

[37:24] Think about what you need

[37:27] Make sure Brian and the PCA has any questions

[37:30] Also, make sure he will form two

[37:33] Or maybe

[37:35] Or not, but yeah

[37:39] Now this was for each of those information

[37:41] Like

[37:43] The idea is in 2 years

[37:50] Yeah

[37:53] We can see a lot of it

[37:59] And then just couple things

[38:06] So on the PCA expose

[38:09] Obviously those customers say we know

[38:12] In case I'm not being a sustainable

[38:14] Because if you see that, and in other words

[38:16] Something is very near to my heart

[38:19] If approved this will launch our fiber

[38:20] So we would say, if they'd be with pledge

[38:23] Some of our revenue

[38:26] Our additional revenue

[38:28] Get the fiber project on the ground

[38:30] And then you know as year 3 and their studies shows

[38:33] You might see okay

[38:36] We have to find something to launch it

[38:39] I was anticipating or he's anticipating

[38:42] But probably perception that

[38:44] It is going

[38:45] But there is cost of doing business

[38:48] And they want these things

[38:51] They are the same eyes and important thing

[38:53] The fibers, important thing

[38:55] We have to be able with those costs for what I'm going

[39:04] Can we do whatever?

[39:06] Whatever

[39:09] Whenever

[39:11] If you know if it's approved or a free system, we would approve

[39:13] Or maybe that will happen

[39:17] So in either way

[39:18] In the future, increase is obviously with a PCA

[39:23] You want to do it like in an fall or this brain one

[39:26] Use of just lower

[39:31] So what you are better than on channel all

[39:39] For any of these PCAx

[40:17] And public needs to know that also

[40:20] Maybe we can put out and release

[40:22] Right

[40:25] And this is a lot of time

[40:38] That I thought it was very important

[40:40] This will be our ad

[40:44] We have to let them in dust or dust for each act

[40:47] It would not be opposed

[40:49] Because we are ready

[40:51] You know, copy the general

[40:54] They generate their own power

[40:56] So they might get property taxes

[40:59] Or when you don't need your property taxes

[41:01] Obviously you can go into the revenue for your luxury or utility

[41:06] You know, wagmarock

[41:08] I don't have to present it

[41:10] For a rating increase

[41:13] It's important

[41:17] To be able with that

[41:19] We are not going

[41:21] A lot of them had to say

[41:23] That night

[41:25] But because business is in this

[41:31] If they need to sit on the city

[42:34] Information, like this target

[42:37] And it's good to make the communities

[42:39] All know that

[42:41] It is not only on because I've never heard of people

[42:43] Because you have a lot of new animals

[42:45] You can do all their different things

[42:50] So there are two weeks going up down for city staff

[42:53] Be prepared with them

[42:57] Like, we're preparing with numbers

[43:00] Discussion topics

[43:03] The only thing i think

[43:05] They don't be able

[43:07] To get out of the amperset from overseas

[43:18] They'll be back for the amperset

[43:25] That might make it easier on Malinda

[43:27] You know, in many of those sessions

[44:05] The first year versus second years

[44:07] Or dollars

[44:10] Since you're PCX is falling off

[44:14] We can do their first year

[44:18] So like six dollars going up

[44:21] And then nine dollars a second

[44:23] Because your PCA X has fallen out

[44:25] Yeah

[44:30] I don't want to think this could get me said about that

[44:32] So you may know when this is on here

[44:35] You're going to find a way of keeping it

[44:37] Because people said that

[44:39] We have them gone

[44:41] To lots build, too

[44:44] Explain the people

[44:46] Well i mean great

[44:48] That's what I'm saying

[44:50] It wasn't my young man

[44:52] Even over home or auto account

[44:54] The C was just up

[44:56] Can we tell these all across the country

[44:58] Which are you?

[45:01] Because they've really got connected with the same way

[45:05] April Poly would, middle last part

[45:07] April Wood probably do better for everybody

[45:09] Yeah

[45:38] Thank You

[45:47] A question of any customer owned generation system service charge

[45:52] Including the Notland and due dollar in men's generation

[46:49] This is all a thing we have on our pack

[46:51] We need to get this either

[46:54] I'll give it up

[46:56] So caster owned generation systems

[46:58] And service charge

[47:00] Which is a caster owned generation system

[47:03] We refer to it set up

[47:05] The individual businesses

[47:07] Generate their own electricity, using sources or systems

[47:09] Okay the close-to point

[47:11] That concept and rather they're lying on utility infrastructure

[47:17] Such as solar panels, winter

[47:19] And small scale

[47:21] But when we talk about this

[47:27] We want them to encapsulate those other case

[47:30] Also

[47:31] The GIF objective of this would be

[47:36] Customers who have renewable energy

[47:39] Interaction equipment are not necessarily buying power from us

[47:43] Instead they're using our infrastructure

[47:47] They cost associated with maintaining and upgrading these infrastructure

[47:50] Our substantial

[47:53] To ensure that we continue delivering strong and efficient service

[47:57] It's essential to modify customer charge

[48:00] This adjustable assist us and recovering expenses

[48:04] Like to operating the image you make infrastructure

[48:07] Allowing them

[48:10] To have dependable instance of service

[48:13] So in their infrastructure

[48:15] It's not just a service that they're house if we are using

[48:17] And it's responsible

[48:19] There is everything from the subsatient transformers

[48:21] All online there will be working with

[48:23] That all this stuff has been placed for

[48:25] They use their solar network

[48:28] There's a lot of more there is the few that have storage

[48:31] But for most part they're using our infrastructure

[48:34] And when

[48:36] They do,

[48:39] That

[48:41] Their not sharing in cost

[48:44] The FWP

[48:46] That $13.26

[48:48] Because we had to set up

[48:50] We'd be able

[48:52] To get some other locations

[48:57] That are doing a GG,

[49:01] Customer charge in public city is at $45

[49:04] Parries of 62-20

[49:07] Still waters and 51.39

[49:09] And the old 60 dollar

[49:11] Our current

[49:13] Now that's separate cars from their regular meter

[49:16] Charters they have an EG

[49:18] Just for people to have those systems

[49:21] Currently we're just talking about it

[50:06] If you want to put your E-mail,

[50:10] It's a link in the email

[50:12] I didn't see it

[50:16] Because customers don t have solar

[50:18] For different types of data

[50:20] That is why

[50:22] The FWP has been doing it

[50:24] And they're just trying

[50:27] To get another transformers

[50:31] Transwembers cost

[50:33] $2500 each

[50:34] And even along the blue down

[50:38] The customers across

[50:40] All those people

[50:42] We saw to maintain a whole system

[50:45] So that's how power is

[50:51] That's correct

[50:54] But they're still using us

[50:57] Because solar does not work

[50:59] They generate

[51:01] Bank up and out

[51:02] They use that back during the night

[51:25] And we're not asking it's also with these rights

[51:29] For another thing to think about

[51:31] Of they can share their cover in our costs

[51:38] The good discussion has decided

[51:41] We move forward

[51:43] With reading increases, rather than doing one price

[51:46] Then you need them after raising

[51:48] Again

[51:52] We just discussed a final price

[51:57] In how would she set earlier

[51:58] We decided to do that

[52:01] Right then we're not AMI charge

[52:04] Because they would still have a

[52:06] They will get their AMI meters

[52:08] And it'll be able

[52:10] To see

[52:13] Their power consumption, what are doing

[52:16] All the customers had an EMI and thats why

[52:18] I'm actually trying to import

[52:20] More paying for it

[52:22] The $4549

[52:25] Just start out

[52:27] Have the discussion rather than like

[52:31] What we've proven is that

[52:33] That's a piece of advice

[52:36] You guess what to do

[52:38] Because some people don't think about it

[52:40] Our electric place for police, replace or fire

[52:42] Or if they're in the box

[52:44] People will go into the storage and put their hands

[52:46] We would be able

[53:06] Different texture of community

[53:08] For staying on track with the rest

[53:11] Is there something you want

[53:12] To like

[53:14] Back in the same time

[53:16] We're going to do it once and not

[53:18] For a very long drive

[53:20] And then we'll be able

[53:22] Speak on all of that at this hour hall

[53:24] But with one price

[53:26] Not, but right now

[53:28] Then what they just know is

[53:30] That's good

[53:32] What are these signs

[53:34] Like, you can see

[53:36] They look bigger than us

[53:38] Their bigger

[53:39] They're in Paris, Pileau and smaller

[53:42] Still are definitely bigger

[53:44] The EL's probably smaller

[53:52] We can't read it

[54:07] See what you guys thought about them

[54:09] I think there is a need for it

[54:11] Reserves the very sensitive

[54:14] It doesn' t matter if they have the customer

[54:16] That's

[54:18] There aren''t any of that

[54:23] Especially to use this same equipment

[54:25] How do we even keep up that

[54:27] Much pocket art, let me

[54:28] Yeah, we have to think that's where the customer is

[54:31] That because if their solar system

[54:34] Is working based on a temp power

[54:36] At night there are solar and all

[54:38] So you still don't need to feed them back

[54:42] And they're saying it doesn' t matter

[54:44] It can be in some of our customers without paying the same price

[54:46] In its always very convenient

[54:48] I know when i go out at azure or something

[54:52] They also but then will not have power

[54:56] You could see that better

[54:58] Of course thats away

[54:59] We want to disconnect there so that they're not back feeding our line

[55:03] When the power is on, we don't have power

[55:09] They won t connect from us and you can see it doesn' s going

[55:12] Don''t work

[55:15] Because its got a sink with your power

[55:17] The sine waves all get up and matchup

[55:20] Back feed put in reals

[55:22] So if i dont know how this happens

[55:24] If someone gets used

[55:25] Whenever a new system comes online

[55:28] They go back feed test on it

[55:30] Make sure its not backed feeding our systems

[55:34] There are still other procedures we have is in the electric department

[55:36] Keep that from happening and don't want to let you out

[55:43] Thank You

[55:49] 11

[55:51] 11

[55:53] 12

[55:55] 12

[55:57] 12

[55:59] 48 families, where house located

[56:01] 15

[56:12] So, Osborne's they have purchased the old adcock

[56:19] People are home

[56:22] They've got some new stuff in there

[56:26] The one thing to do is pretty much adapt it

[56:32] Its an old structure

[56:34] And their want build a

[56:36] Give you little hand out

[56:38] We read that

[56:41] 4800 square foot

[56:43] They came with a scope of plan

[56:53] So i'm going to read it off

[56:55] Their expanding base from 103 south main

[56:58] 15A northwest

[57:02] Larger opportunity for growth

[57:04] Retail business

[57:07] Generations and more sales tax

[57:10] The rich, rubbish, black and white

[57:13] An opportunities greatly expand

[57:16] So we're asking that

[57:20] We do our normal permit incentive for the building

[57:26] This doesn't wave, it all

[57:29] It waves a cost

[57:31] Like if you normally be from anybody else

[57:34] They are investing over 700 thousand in

[57:38] The community of building and the equipment

[57:47] See

[57:49] Building will support

[57:51] I'm not sure exactly

[57:56] It's going to be a storage for the warehouse

[57:59] For their equipment

[58:01] How many employees they'll have

[58:03] But at day i think that

[58:06] With investment and buildings just set in there

[58:09] So im being occupied

[58:12] Kind of seal on rendering

[58:17] That area

[58:22] Basically we're asking for the incentive

[58:24] For up to 10,000 for their tipping fees

[58:27] Dumpsters that they use

[58:29] By the else's dumpsters

[58:31] They will always other than my Amazon is used

[58:46] To share it with you

[58:48] This way we're taking vacation

[58:55] The way of building permit and inspection fees

[58:57] So not exceed 205

[59:01] We are asking before

[59:03] If i'm at the xc13

[59:08] Do have a way of refeed

[59:10] Or 1-3 quarter water tap if applicable

[59:12] They may use the same one that's there

[59:15] I would assume just as i told it is

[59:18] It might be safer to get anyone else

[59:24] Possibly if

[59:28] Its a original for their car

[59:31] Build up

[59:34] You know how long its built

[59:36] In old days

[59:40] Do they not own that old

[59:42] I don't know if i should build that old building

[59:48] There is a house

[59:51] But there are houses next to it

[59:55] They all have basically the parking lot

[59:59] Get rid of this funeral home

[60:04] Do you say

[60:11] Well, why would they not build

[60:14] That's what investment and expansion

[61:21] They have one of three southmen

[61:25] Is there a car?

[61:27] Hopefully

[61:34] Just want to run across from security bank

[61:39] To the South

[61:41] Yes, next time

[61:43] That's 1-0 on

[61:46] Then I'll go through right next

[61:48] So

[61:50] Like i said

[61:52] Right now

[61:54] I'm going to go through local stores

[61:57] They want this one

[62:06] To be for their low store in the first area

[62:27] And they're using all local contractors

[62:31] You just said building will have a versed rib paneling

[62:34] It's almost going to be metal

[62:37] All i've seen is rendering

[62:42] That are all they submitted

[62:45] But you'll see that the screws and less looking straight

[62:47] And we don't have any things

[62:54] Because that sounds to see for the A streets

[62:58] We wonít be having anything in order

[63:01] It's got a certain, it has gotta be break

[63:17] I can ask how they will

[63:26] Cosmeticly look like

[63:44] No one built on me

[63:46] I'm sure its going

[63:49] To make this a metal mill

[63:54] Oh my commission

[63:57] So cool

[63:58] Hi

[64:00] I'm Parker

[64:03] Thank you

[64:05] Well, the new business

[64:07] If we need to build this in the course of this

[64:12] In 2013 it's back report

[64:17] 14 trustee community in office

[64:22] 15 is being continued from Calth Chamber

[64:25] Reeming the staff room

[64:27] The purpose and executive session

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Claims List
7.
*Action Item* Minutes: February 25, 2025 (Regular) and March 04, 2025 (Regular) Trustees
Minutes: February 25, 2025
Minutes: March 04, 2025
8.
*Action Item* Award Request for Qualifications (RFQ) 25-05 for Professional Services Consultant for Advanced Metering Infrastructure to E-Source and Give Related Signing Authority to the Trust Manager or his Designee Tyler Cline/Derric Lollar/Brian Brassfield
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E-Source Response
PSE Response
SL serco Response
The Shpigler Group Response
Additional Questions and Answers
Score Sheets
Price List
Solicitation Packet
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Presentation and Discussion of Electric Utility Rate Study by Willdan Financial Services Tyler Cline/Derric Lollar/Dan Jackson
Discussion of any Customer Owned Generation System Service Charge Including but not Limited to Solar and Wind Generation Derric Lollar
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11.
*Action Item* Resolution CC2025-02/MSUA2023-01 Authorizing Community Financial Support and Fee Waiver to Osborn Drug for the Development of a 4,800 Sq. Ft. Warehouse Located at 15 A St NW Travis Jones
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Resolution
Rendering
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*Potential Action Item* Other New Business, if any, Which has Arisen Since the Posting of the Agenda and Could not Have Been Anticipated Prior to the Time of Posting (25 O.S. § 311(9)) Trustees/Tyler Cline
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Staff Reports (Written report included in packet, if available staff is present for questions) Trustees
Pollution Control
Pollution Control Annual Report
Solid Waste
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Trustee Community Announcements Trustees
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The Meeting Will be Continued From the Council Chambers and Reconvened in the Staff Room for Purposes of the Executive Session at the Completion of the Regular Meeting of the Miami City Council Chairman Parker
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Executive Session in the Staff Room to Review Previous Executive Session Minutes Trustees
17.
Executive Session in the Staff Room Pursuant to 25 O.S. §307(B)(4) for Purposes of Confidential Communications Between the Trust and its Attorney Concerning a Pending Investigation, Claim, or Action, to wit: City of Miami, et al., v. GRDA CJ-08-619 and F.E.R.C. Project No. 1494 Trustees
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The Meeting Will be Reconvened in the Staff Room After the Executive Session Trustees
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*Possible Action Item* on Matters Addressed in Executive Session Agenda Item Number 17 Trustees
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*Action Item* Adjournment Trustees
The MSUA Board of Trustees for the City of Miami is committed to making this meeting accessible to all citizens. If special assistance or accommodations are required, please submit your request to the City Manager's office. We also ask that those in attendance place all electronic devices on silent. Thank you.