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[03:00] team in general system.
[03:02] But I'm going to group a guy that I had the opportunity to be blessed to work with.
[03:07] We'll start with our 125,000.
[03:10] We'll try.
[03:12] Let's go.
[03:13] Come on.
[03:14] Come on.
[03:15] Come on.
[03:16] Come on.
[03:17] Line up across here.
[03:19] We'll go ahead and sit here.
[03:20] Come on over here and line up.
[03:22] We'll try to make up Jack's deck.
[03:26] There are 133,000 in older brother.
[03:30] So he's car set with a hundred, 41,000.
[03:33] Or 149,000.
[03:35] There's pinned the lead.
[03:37] I mean, the attachment you give it to you.
[03:40] You've got to start even dreaming about him.
[03:42] I have to drink with this showman.
[03:44] Think you're out and show you the hair.
[03:46] I have a dream.
[03:47] It's hair and a drone.
[03:50] All the way down to a questionable style.
[03:54] I'm dying.
[03:55] It is good moms.
[03:57] Let's make sure you get that trim back.
[03:59] I think they're all along the beard you go to.
[04:02] We're 165 pounds wide, Jordan.
[04:07] And all these young men are national qualifiers.
[04:10] Which is why we're only brought 10 of them.
[04:12] And I'll kind of explain a little bit in detail here in a second.
[04:15] We're 174 pounder down the crawl.
[04:18] Our 184 pounder is Alex Kaufman.
[04:21] Our 197 pounder is another Z.
[04:24] Just a little bit different size ZXO.
[04:27] And our big way at the end there are anyway is Brian.
[04:31] Also brought with us are two assistant coaches.
[04:34] Casey Malm.
[04:36] And Mark Hoppton.
[04:38] I'll just go a little bit quick.
[04:40] We'll talk about some.
[04:42] We won't go in detail.
[04:43] In order to qualify for the national tournament.
[04:46] We had to make it through a 10 team.
[04:49] Regional.
[04:51] All these guys ended up in the final.
[04:53] We got six regional champions.
[04:55] We had four runner-ups from that.
[04:57] Then we got the national tournament.
[04:59] We had nine all-American.
[05:00] Which is to be an all-American place in the top eight.
[05:03] Very fortunate to turn in that very good situation for all of them.
[05:06] We also have the most falls reward with our 125 pounder.
[05:10] We've got two drive-in.
[05:11] Please or not, he didn't make 125 pounds a month ago.
[05:16] I don't know how, but I look at how to write now.
[05:19] But everybody here is a form.
[05:21] We're like, well, I wish you was an opportunity.
[05:23] And you have to be in that space to bring the whole team down.
[05:26] Because the whole team is just an exceptional group of young men.
[05:29] And he's getting their up here represented with our coaching staff.
[05:33] And everything else.
[05:34] I'm just honored to be a part of it.
[05:37] It's been a great ride.
[05:38] But I want to draw a special attention to life's work.
[05:41] Life's work with the national finals for the last year, the last year, the last year.
[05:45] The last year.
[05:46] The last year.
[05:47] We came up a little bit short.
[05:48] We got a second.
[05:49] But the year before he was a national champion.
[05:51] And everybody in this group, like I said, I can't brag on him enough.
[05:54] And I'm very, once again, just very fortunate for the opportunity to date.
[06:00] We've left us with to bring a national title to any of you, and to the community of my
[06:05] Emma, and thank you for everything that you guys have done.
[06:11] Coach, thank you.
[06:12] We've got, and I know we're going to do this later in the week at the college also.
[06:16] I believe we are.
[06:19] But there's a proclamation here, and I'm going to ask Councilman Johnson to do the honors
[06:23] of reading this.
[06:24] I know that he's worked with Dr. Haley on helping to arrange this, and so I'm going to ask
[06:31] him to read that if he can find that he's got his reading glasses on.
[06:34] I'm ready.
[06:36] I'm in the proclamation declaration of April 3rd, 2018, as 2019, the O&M wrestling team
[06:42] day, and I say to my Emma, Ottawa County Oklahoma, we're at Mayor Rudy Shelter, and the
[06:47] Miami City Council of Labor is important to recognize citizens who are just saying we're
[06:52] going to tell us about various means, and it makes significant contributions to our community.
[06:57] And we're at the Miami City Council of Labor that the 2018, the O&M wrestling team, or such
[07:02] individuals, worthy of being in knowledge, and we're at the 2017, and the 2018, and the
[07:09] 2019, the O&M wrestling team, produced a 14-in-1 dual record, and we're at the 2017, 2019,
[07:18] the O&M wrestling team, was a national runner-up at the Nation-Doo Championship, and
[07:25] we're at the 2017, 2018, the O&M wrestling team, won the West, and termed history of championship
[07:32] for the 5th consecutive year.
[07:36] We're at the 2017, 2018, the O&M, the O&M wrestling team produced non-in-all Americans, both
[07:43] driving, Jack Carster, Carcetta, Carcetta, Cody Carcetta, Candidly, Y Jordan, Devon
[07:51] Crow, Alex Colton, Zincelvin, and Brian Andrews, but get them right.
[07:59] We're at Coach Ramfero in the A&M, the O&M, the third national title in the past five years
[08:04] at A&M, the O&M, and we're at Coach Joe Ramfero, the national coach of the year, where
[08:09] the sixth time in his last year's coaching career.
[08:12] Now therefore, be it all resolved, that my research in the Miami City Council, the year declared
[08:19] to the April 3rd, 2018, as 2018, and the O&M wrestling team, the O&M, the O&M, the O&M,
[08:41] the O&M, the O&M, the O&M, the O&M, the O&M, the O&M, the O&M, the O&M, the O&M, the
[09:01] All right, thanks guys very much.
[09:09] All right, scroll through.
[09:10] Appreciate it.
[09:10] I don't know.
[09:11] Good thing you're saying for me.
[09:14] Hey, I'll hang around if you look for a minute.
[09:15] Yeah, just a little bit.
[09:16] Just a little bit.
[09:17] You guys can go this way.
[09:19] You guys can go this way.
[09:21] You guys can go this way.
[09:22] We should hang around.
[09:24] I don't want that.
[09:25] Yeah.
[09:26] Thank you.
[09:27] Thanks, Doug.
[09:28] So besides these awesome group of wrestlers that
[09:33] are currently residents of Miami as students of
[09:36] any, we have a former resident of Miami that we also
[09:40] want to recognize.
[09:41] And I'm going to ask you to read this one too.
[09:43] Sure.
[09:44] If you would.
[09:45] Bill, could you come up with that?
[09:46] We've got.
[09:47] You've got it.
[09:48] We'll go ahead.
[09:49] You've got to stand in line for Dr. Hill, please.
[09:51] Okay.
[09:54] Great.
[09:55] Okay.
[09:56] Promotivation.
[09:57] Declaration of April.
[09:58] Third, 2018.
[09:59] You're out here today in the city of Miami.
[10:02] I'll be counting up the home.
[10:03] We're as mayor Rudy Shelton.
[10:05] I'm city council.
[10:06] I'm living as important to recognize citizens.
[10:08] They're distinguished themselves by various means.
[10:10] And they'll make significant contributions to our community.
[10:14] And where's my city council?
[10:16] I believe that he, you know, I hail as such an individual.
[10:18] Worthy of being in knowledge.
[10:19] And whereas in 2013, you know, I hail when the couple home of
[10:23] class 4x10 tile.
[10:24] As a senior.
[10:25] I'm a high school.
[10:27] Whereas you know, I hail when the M.I.A.
[10:30] postseason tournament championship.
[10:32] And whereas Mark 10th of 2018.
[10:34] And see the rapids up.
[10:36] I will.
[10:37] You'll I hail when the NCAA division 2 championship.
[10:41] And whereas you like I hail, it became a 44th individual national champion.
[10:45] And the university.
[10:46] Central.
[10:47] Almost wrestling history.
[10:49] Whereas you'll I hail.
[10:50] It was maybe the end.
[10:51] I, a wrestler of the year.
[10:53] Following the 24 and out.
[10:55] Seas.
[10:57] Now they're important to be a result.
[10:59] That mayor shows in the United States Council.
[11:01] Do you hear about the clerk?
[11:02] Trace the apple third.
[11:03] 2019.
[11:04] Does he like to die in the city of Miami?
[11:07] Yeah.
[11:11] You're going to hear about the number.
[11:13] Thank you.
[11:14] Thank you very much.
[11:15] Very well, sir.
[11:16] Yes.
[11:17] Absolutely.
[11:18] Thank you.
[11:19] Thank you.
[11:20] Okay.
[11:22] Item 3 is a proclamation declaring April 8th.
[11:32] Through the 14th, 2018.
[11:34] National 911 telecommunicator week.
[11:37] And I've got a proclamation.
[11:38] I'm going to read this one.
[11:41] Whereas 911 is nationally recognized as the number to call in the emergency to receive immediate
[11:45] help from police, fire, emergency medical services or other appropriate emergency responsibilities.
[11:51] And whereas 911 was designated by Congress as a national emergency call number of the wireless
[11:56] communications and public safety act of 1999.
[11:59] Work.
[12:00] As the enhanced nine-month one act of 2004, established enhanced nine-month one is a high national priority as part of our nation's home insecurity and public safety.
[12:09] Whereas people of all ages use nine-month one is critical to educate the public of all ages on the proper use of nine-month one.
[12:16] Whereas a growing segment of the population, including the deaf heart of hearing, deaf blind, and individual speech disabilities,
[12:23] increasingly communicate with non-traditional text, video, and instant messaging communication services.
[12:28] And anticipate that these services will be able to connect directly to nine-month one.
[12:32] Whereas thousands of nine-month one calls are made every year by children properly trained in the use of nine-month one.
[12:39] Resulting in live-save, which underscores the critical importance of training children early in life about nine-month one.
[12:45] Whereas there's widespread misuse of the nine-month one system, including prank and non-emergency calls,
[12:50] which can result in costly and inefficient use of nine-month one in the emergency response resources.
[12:55] Now, therefore, be it resolved that mayor-sholes in this Miami City Council do hereby declare April 8 through 2014.
[13:04] 2018 is national nine-month one telecommunicator week within the city of Miami.
[13:09] In witness wherever I have hearing to set my hand.
[13:12] And I know we have some emergency responders here tonight, or nine-month one people.
[13:16] But if you would, if some of them would introduce them because I apologize I don't know every one station.
[13:20] Or if you want to introduce yourselves.
[13:23] Chief?
[13:24] And it.
[13:25] The next one is passed out there.
[13:28] We can't say enough about our dispatcher.
[13:30] They work short-handed.
[13:32] We're under staff in the position to have two full-time dispatchers 24-7.
[13:37] And they just do an absolutely incredible job.
[13:40] This that's advisor to nine-avenants.
[13:44] Dispatch trainer.
[13:47] Right?
[13:49] And that's where you told me.
[13:52] Nine-avenants.
[13:53] Nine-avenants.
[13:55] And dispatcher.
[13:57] Debrit.
[13:58] And I can never pronounce what.
[14:00] Ender record.
[14:01] Very fast.
[14:02] Very fast.
[14:03] Very fast.
[14:04] But we're very proud of our dispatchers.
[14:07] They do an absolutely incredible job.
[14:09] And probably most critical job in high city.
[14:12] And it is for workforce, me, MS, and finance.
[14:16] Absolutely.
[14:17] Okay.
[14:18] Well, I'm going to present this to you, Donna Anna.
[14:36] And we've got a lot to do.
[14:37] Okay.
[14:51] Item four is public input on schedule personal appearances.
[14:55] And when you audience it wishes to address the council on any of the agenda items.
[15:01] Item 5 is the consent agenda staff is recommending item 6 through 10, which are claims minutes,
[15:09] garage sale resolution, and monster truck rental of the fairgrounds, and JAR Cemetery
[15:17] maintenance service contract. Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda as recommended?
[15:22] We have a second. Second.
[15:25] roll call please?
[15:28] Aye.
[15:30] Aye.
[15:31] Aye.
[15:32] Item 11 is considering the resolution of proving the incurring of debt in debt against the Miami special.
[15:38] Do you tell the authority as the agenda item that we dealt with earlier when Greg was up?
[15:44] Do we have a motion to approve the indebtedness?
[15:47] Yes, motion.
[15:48] roll call please?
[15:51] Aye.
[15:52] Aye.
[15:55] Aye.
[15:56] Item 12 is discussion of an ordinance and the Miami special utility authority resolution,
[16:03] freezing transfers out of the MSUA fund to finance bonds, for MSUA capital improvements,
[16:09] per the recent well-danned rate study, Tyler and Jill.
[16:55] And that's electric only so far instead.
[17:09] Now, in the right study, what was provided for in the rain creases are actually 20 billion
[17:14] dollars worth of improvements.
[17:16] An 8 million dollar, an 9 million dollar, a 7 million, a 50,000 dollar, a million billion
[17:21] a million billion trillion.
[17:28] In the VA, if you're going to the next, actually the third page, that's best actually to
[17:33] rate increases through 2021.
[17:36] Okay.
[17:40] So, this is a list of all the capital improvements that we're looking at.
[17:43] There's the nickel substation.
[17:45] Right here is the Operator and Operations Center.
[17:48] So, these are the capital improvements for the 23 million.
[17:53] I just talked about the 8 million are going to fund.
[17:56] This is one to five years for 10 million.
[18:00] or the two, they'll cross over to the second,
[18:03] see what's that nine million bombin' that we'll do next time.
[18:08] So, we were looking at transphars and I just put down
[18:11] the transfers that are known in SUA transfers.
[18:15] So, just for gentle operation,
[18:18] it's 2.28 health insurance fund,
[18:21] and this is back from FY 1670.
[18:26] So, he came up with the 4.1 million in the right study,
[18:30] based on these transfers.
[18:34] So, that's where I keep saying the 4.1 is what these be friends
[18:37] and it's from this right study of these transfers at FY 1670.
[18:41] For this year, we actually use the,
[18:44] we kept that number the same.
[18:46] So, we are living within that number.
[18:48] In the current fiscal year.
[18:50] Yes, they're in 19 correct.
[18:52] So, there's two things that you could do
[18:54] to free transfers.
[18:56] The MSU-I could do a resolution,
[18:58] and if you go to the next page,
[19:00] the meat of the resolution is right here.
[19:04] It just says the authority here by limits transfers
[19:07] out of the MSU-I fund 510 for a specific dollar amount,
[19:12] annually as annual budget requirement,
[19:14] and less than specific to the floor,
[19:16] MSU-I infrastructure or capital improvements.
[19:19] That's just proposed language, just for discussion.
[19:23] Another draft ordinance I created for the council,
[19:26] it's actually based upon the street valley ordinance
[19:28] that was approved.
[19:32] It's ordinance over 1562.
[19:34] It talks about the roadway,
[19:36] and that the city manager is to provide a budget
[19:40] that has no less than 500,000 in the for road maintenance
[19:43] in the street valley.
[19:45] So, this kind of ordinance,
[19:48] the street valley doesn't mean that it has to be 500.
[19:50] That means you can propose it, and you guys can change that number.
[19:53] You can double it, you can make it zero, whatever you want,
[19:56] but he has to propose that your sheet has to propose 500,000 in the roadway.
[20:01] So, I just mirror that language, and I said the city manager
[20:04] shall provide for no more than a specific dollar figure,
[20:07] and my mind did be 4.1 million in exchange
[20:10] in transfer outside MSU-I, same language as the resolution,
[20:14] and less than 4 infrastructure or MSU-I capital improvements.
[20:20] Now, another option that I don't
[20:25] know, we get some thought on it, was maybe a percentage.
[20:29] However, the right study, the revenues,
[20:33] you're going to go up every year, because we're designed to.
[20:35] We've approved of to go up to pay for these 20, 30 million dollars in the funding.
[20:39] However, we, his numbers are conservative.
[20:42] So, I'm assuming his numbers will, our kids are in the numbers.
[20:46] So, whatever he says, we're going to make a little bit more,
[20:49] because that's what he said historically,
[20:51] and that's what he said he'd deal with this great study.
[20:54] So, I just kind of gave you a, I took,
[20:57] our actual revenues from 16.
[21:00] And this MSUA, so MSUA's actual renderer was 21.8 million.
[21:04] So, that is a 19%, so 4.1 million is 19% of what the renderers were in 1670.
[21:15] This year, the budgeted, which we have finished the year, so it's just an estimated number,
[21:20] we're estimated 24 million, and that's a 17% of 4.1 million would be.
[21:25] And then projected, this is what I did, this BA, of course, that number is going to change almost daily,
[21:31] but right now it's at 17%.
[21:33] So, I didn't know if you wanted to, you know, I've tried to give you a second option,
[21:39] and there may even be a third option out there, that you guys could suggest.
[21:43] Or, if you want us to look, this design, we can do that too.
[21:49] We just felt it was important enough to, because we saw it in that right side, it was an eye over us.
[21:55] I'm just, this won't journal hurting things, of course.
[22:02] So, like, keeping their evidence in the utility system, whenever you go far,
[22:07] it looks like they can't consideration on the readiness system.
[22:14] They're saying they look favorably on things like this.
[22:17] Yes.
[22:18] Can anybody, will it make it, you know, an actual raid, one that will get us properly knocked.
[22:23] You know, it might make it a difference between the stable and optimistic,
[22:28] and then the future.
[22:29] So, again, it's not just trying to hurt anything that happens to you.
[22:38] So, Jill, I was a little confused about number two in number three,
[22:45] based on budget and based on projected, or you just saying that we're pretty much on target.
[22:52] The projection is, I mean, it's a little higher than budget, but is that why?
[22:56] I think it's just one sure, I understand the distinction between.
[22:59] It's a budget of number, and so now, as a budget of this VA,
[23:02] our projected revenue for 1819 is 24.5.
[23:06] So, both of those were half to 17% rounded.
[23:09] Yeah.
[23:10] It just happened to have about 70%.
[23:12] Okay.
[23:13] Comparing option two, it's one to two.
[23:15] If we freeze that in, if we put it at a percentage, that could be a different percentage,
[23:22] it could be a moving target, right?
[23:25] Right.
[23:29] Which concerns us a little bit, because we just actually talked about that in the afternoon,
[23:33] because the rates are supposed to go up.
[23:36] The revenue to fund the things that were proposing.
[23:39] That list about it.
[23:41] Sorry, they're point there as if you...
[23:43] But as the rates go up, your percentage goes down.
[23:47] Well, if you said, okay, it's going to be 19% from now on.
[23:50] Well, the rate of revenues are going to go up, so it's going to be 19%, so it's going to be a bigger bit.
[23:55] But the dollar amount would grow in that case if you froze.
[24:00] if you throw the dollar amount, it's not, it's not variable.
[24:04] And so I think Jill's point of maybe what you were getting at Vicki was where these
[24:11] right increases are in place to fund those improvements. If we take 19% let's just say we
[24:17] put 19. If we take 19% of the increasing amount every year then that could potentially
[24:25] the short changes. Is that, it's not a certainty that it would, but it potentials.
[24:33] It could, if things were tight.
[24:36] Yeah, if you get that you get a third option, if I did kind of wreck my right turn, if I did
[24:40] that third option? Whatever we do, future accounts can change, right?
[24:46] I mean these are just here to hear, but basically we're saying this is our position, this
[24:51] is kind of our philosophy and it's subject to change at any point. Brian, I know you've brought
[24:59] this up a couple of times. What are you thinking?
[25:01] Well, I'm going to have to digest a little bit, tell you know, I kind of had some concerns,
[25:06] but it's been a step that you guys talked about. My biggest concern was always I just hated
[25:12] this to rob from utilities, especially when we're having to go and get this money. So whenever you
[25:19] if we received a big expansion of some form that came in and our utilities was,
[25:25] are that number going to go up, my fear is I don't want to just, because we get this big,
[25:30] we let's not put that back into our utilities. I want to still have a percentage that goes into our
[25:36] a set percentage that we don't steal from. So they know what they can work with. So.
[25:41] And as is what Jill is providing you, especially this option about the number is kind of how we're approaching
[25:48] the budget. Currently we're putting together the 1819 budget and our discussions.
[25:54] Both last year and this year we're saying let's try to freeze transfers at this number.
[26:00] Recognizing that it is a fluid situation that numbers move and it does put a lot of pressure on our
[26:05] budgets and puts pressure on our expenditures. There's no two ways about it that what government
[26:10] unit doesn't have those pressures. Okay. So this really more or less codifies what we're talking
[26:16] about internally quite a bit. And I think you've had that exact concern is what is the guideline,
[26:22] well the guideline is our conversation by adopting an ordinance like this the guideline is more in
[26:28] in place that everybody understands. Now can it be changed or situations change or something like that
[26:35] absolutely, but at least it gives all of us that guideline and understanding is what you want us to do.
[26:41] And if it's going to be changing the future there's we can be confident there's going to be a
[26:46] conversation about why this was done the way it was. So the future council is going to understand
[26:51] what the thing is. It's not something that would just be done without consideration and thought.
[26:58] And I think of the past.
[27:00] I remember right do we have we have percentages upwards of 24% with that?
[27:16] And what we were trying to do is stabilize that because what we've seen is that we might have one fiscal year,
[27:22] where it's huge and another fiscal year, where it goes down exactly.
[27:26] So now we're just trying to keep it in a much steadier position.
[27:30] And so just to restake what I believe the will to hand assumptions were when you
[27:36] talking about that there was a straight line that's same amount.
[27:39] Those were the transfers out.
[27:41] So he's predicated his rating increases on a growing balance.
[27:45] But out of that growing balance, the same amount coming out each year.
[27:49] And so that incremental increase is to pay for the improvements that's set.
[27:53] Right.
[27:54] And so you're tonight or not in a certain night, tonight you're saying,
[28:07] think this through and hopefully be prepared to give us some guidance for long because
[28:14] you're in the middle of the budget process.
[28:16] On that note, do you have a budget calendar prepared yet where you've backed down from
[28:23] here's the approval date?
[28:24] Yes.
[28:25] Okay.
[28:26] Yes.
[28:27] Because I know we you mentioned budget meetings earlier.
[28:29] Probably we'll probably have some discussions with you about the budget at the end
[28:34] of this month.
[28:35] Then we'll probably have our actual budget meetings in May getting geared up for any changes.
[28:39] And of course, the adoption is in June for having it ready by July 1.
[28:44] Correct.
[28:45] And you know, individually you've talked to me about wanting to have something like this and
[28:51] to credit, Jill and Tyler, they were already working on something.
[28:55] So I think we're putting together by doing this what you were hoping we would be able to do as
[29:00] well.
[29:01] So I'm kind of happy we're able to get this to you as quickly as we've been able to.
[29:05] Tyler, do you feel a little bit better about that discussion?
[29:08] In the utility side?
[29:09] I bet you do.
[29:11] I do.
[29:12] I feel better about it.
[29:14] Right.
[29:17] Right.
[29:18] Right.
[29:19] I need some guidance.
[29:20] Can you tomorrow circulate that kind of budget schedule?
[29:25] Because everybody needs to be looking at their calendars if we're going to have some.
[29:28] Why do I need to wait for the 10 index for the first two of the budget work sessions
[29:33] for the discussion, the initial discussion?
[29:35] May you're April.
[29:36] Okay.
[29:37] So.
[29:38] What do you do those?
[29:39] Yeah.
[29:40] Those are just the 10 of discussion.
[29:41] You're all right.
[29:42] Is one of those are regular work sessions anyway?
[29:45] Yes.
[29:46] So this is third.
[29:47] Yeah.
[29:48] I do think that unless there's some initiatives that you have that you want us to start
[29:55] considering the way we're approaching this budget is very much a status quo budget.
[29:59] From.
[30:00] what we're trying to do this fiscal year, carrying it forward.
[30:03] That doesn't mean we're not doing anything.
[30:04] You saw what we're doing by way of approach on the comprehensive plan.
[30:10] But I don't think we have any new initiatives or anything like that that we're really working on right now.
[30:16] We just anticipate kind of status quo going into the next fiscal year.
[30:20] We have a lot going on.
[30:23] Oh, do we ever?
[30:24] So the council members, if there are any different areas of emphasis or, you know, what?
[30:30] Let me know that.
[30:31] So it would be discussed at that work session at the lab.
[30:35] Absolutely.
[30:36] The idea is for things that we want to see staff doing.
[30:40] Beyond that, just please come to that meeting prepared to kind of give, you know,
[30:45] we'll talk about it again.
[30:47] We want to have our thoughts on it so we can share it with staff.
[30:51] And if you'll send that schedule out of jail, sir, but it can kind of mark it on the calendars.
[30:56] Okay.
[30:59] Anything else on that item?
[31:02] All right.
[31:07] Thank you, guys.
[31:08] Item 13 is purchased a view hardware to replace the network storage array for the city of Miami.
[31:13] Dave.
[31:14] Well, David's coming up to the podium.
[31:16] I just wanted to say that normally an item like this, we might have put on the consent agenda.
[31:22] But David, this is a project he worked in over a month on.
[31:26] And I think it's a tremendous work that we're doing in our network system.
[31:31] I thought it'd be good for David to be able to explain it to you and show him what he's up to.
[31:36] Okay?
[31:45] Yeah.
[31:46] The hardware that is the hardware that is the hardware network infrastructure is what all of our servers sell.
[31:53] So everything that runs into each other has been the meter inside of things, live on this hardware.
[31:59] And I think it was saying I spent about six months working with a number of different vendors to find out what would that seem to see.
[32:10] The reason for switching as a current system is what they consider in the service office.
[32:15] Which means the hardware manufacturer will no longer support it.
[32:19] So it's something broke.
[32:21] We need to have to find third-party funds to fix it.
[32:24] Or go at me and do this and buy something to rebuild.
[32:29] David, how old is our current?
[32:31] I believe it is six years old.
[32:34] That seems to be the standard length of time.
[32:39] The hardware manufacturer will warrant you these types of equipment.
[32:46] I should note part of this amount.
[32:49] Also, it includes three years of 24-7, four hours support.
[32:55] So this is something that I think breaks in the middle.
[33:00] call someone. And by the next morning I can have either everything fixed or I can actually
[33:08] have the parts or whatever's required to get it back up and right.
[33:15] There's one of the other big things on this with our current system being going on six years
[33:22] old. The hardware is fairly editing. I mean if you think about it, I suppose computer equipment
[33:31] was available in two that in twelve versions of what they were today. There's going to be a
[33:35] ninety-day difference on the performance side of things. So I think it's actually going
[33:40] to help the city to be able to work a little bit more efficiently and a little bit faster.
[33:45] Of the three visits they sent in. I went with the one that was in the middle because the second
[33:53] bid that came to me. That's the 48th of the liquid which is a low-volt number. They put in there
[34:00] to try to come in with a super-low option. But it would be kind of like going and getting the
[34:08] cheapest quality equipment because it's just a bit of it. The one from that in the work group was an excellent
[34:14] bid. It was quite a bit more expensive and what they were wanting to do is replace a lot more. Then
[34:22] what we were really needed to continue to maintain what we were going. And like I said, the bid
[34:29] one is the one that I think we should approve because it's going to give us equipment that will be under warranty
[34:36] for three years and at the end of the three years we can pay about $11,700 to $4. It's a bit back
[34:45] to warranty for an additional three years. So we know if we go with this right now three years
[34:52] or not that's what it's going to cost to warranty for additional three years.
[34:57] What was the one number two? The warranty on number two, I have not 200 years. I got a print
[35:06] of that. So I would say the warranty for number two is a four-hour. It's also going to be
[35:19] a three-year and it came in six thousand six hundred and forty-four dollars to actually want to
[35:29] get the same line. So is that the second three-year cost in this 78,000 and the end of 48 are they built
[35:36] into that. Second three years, so three years from now we would be. So the 78 includes the 11,000
[35:42] and the 48 includes the six thousand and then there's a renewal option after three years on that.
[35:50] And so there's about a $30,000 difference between AOS is one and two bid and five.
[36:00] thousand of that being the award he cost so there's 25,000 in I would
[36:06] not I guess quality difference and also additional hardware.
[36:12] On the of the difference in cost, the one that came in at 48,000 was for an
[36:20] already that was actually a nimble storage array which is that it's a main
[36:25] with actually they're one of the companies that make storage array.
[36:28] What they have done is they have taken traditional hard drives and some of the
[36:35] newer hard drives, the solid safe drives and they've mixed those together and
[36:39] I still still so they can provide it much safer but less.
[36:45] Well, something that doesn't have as good a requirement.
[36:49] I mean it gets to job done but it's kind of it's it's it's very apparent
[36:54] with if you've got them tied by side and you're using them to see the one that
[36:59] 78,000 is actually a I believe it was Cisco as well as a it was an old
[37:15] financial array as well as they even have a list is for the company of manufacturers.
[37:21] The main difference they're being it's actually to be a little bit faster it's going to
[37:26] be a lot less likely to be thrown to failure the one thing I'm
[37:31] not the older hard drives that are traditional to have the players they have a
[37:37] life expectancy because there's a lower and there's a spender and you know,
[37:41] 7200 or you have all the time.
[37:44] This confirms they just doesn't have that.
[37:47] Basically just ones and zeros and a chip so they're likely to failure much more.
[37:53] So this is a little off topic but we'll what difference will the bolt band with increase
[38:03] make or we are we already have that here I can't or we'll be working on that here now we have
[38:09] the bolt band with here in the building and this building is building and we have actually
[38:15] one of the things we've done over the last years we're currently about to tie in the
[38:19] airport in the solid way building to the network it's here on bolt we've already done the
[38:24] CBB those fire stations the waste we're going to treat that plant as well as the
[38:30] option of it we're building so we'll really only have the full cemetery and the travel
[38:36] information center that's not usually the end and it comes out of the side so besides the
[38:44] reliability of the solid state product versus the other and I would assume I would guess
[38:48] it's a longer life yes the way they look at the life solid state drives is a little differently
[38:56] they look at the number of trans
[39:00] transactions that can do, basically going back and forth from one to the zero over its
[39:05] life.
[39:06] And it's in the petabytes of data, which it would be something like 100 billion transactions.
[39:21] It's a huge number.
[39:23] And usually they're guaranteed that they won't fail for 5 to 10 years, where it's standard
[39:30] drive.
[39:31] You're pretty much guaranteed that they're going to start failing in about 30 years.
[39:34] So, I guess what I'm thinking in a West Coast store, if you've got a customer standing
[39:44] in front of you and you're on the computer, if the refresh rate is such that there's
[39:50] a one-second lag between your transaction or a 10-second lag.
[39:57] I mean, that starts to become a problem.
[40:00] I can pay for a lot more expensive communication lines and get that down to a 10-to-second,
[40:06] but it's not cost-effective to do.
[40:08] So, I guess that's kind of what I'm wondering here is the difference in the 48 and the 78.
[40:13] What is a practical matter is the difference going to be?
[40:16] I think a practical matter is the big difference there is.
[40:19] I think if in relation to what you were talking about the amount of time it takes, the 48,
[40:28] that's another one would be more educational, say, if we went, it's hard to explain.
[40:34] And if you go to open a program or if you go to move something off the one or I'm doing
[40:39] another drive, it might take 25 or 30 seconds depending on the side.
[40:44] Whereas on the one that's the 78, that's in hers and it would probably take more than two to three seconds.
[40:50] And that's just because the way the data is handled is completely different.
[40:56] So, over time, you would notice a big difference in the speed.
[41:01] I mean, it would be I know it's a little bit of just in days and days where it's possible.
[41:09] Any other questions?
[41:13] My concern, my concern is, I don't know we have to have a reason to accept a higher bid.
[41:19] And what's that reason?
[41:21] The reason the best reason I can give you is that's higher bid is a much better solution
[41:29] because it's going to be less from the failure.
[41:32] It's going to actually give us exactly what we asked for in the bid, where it's the one that was lower.
[41:38] It was not 100% what we asked for in the bid, because in the way the hardware was kind of mixed together.
[41:47] And now, I just, in my experience, it's something that's going to last the city and work the best for the next six years.
[42:00] And this is something we won't replace for at least six years.
[42:04] And is this money in the budget?
[42:06] Yes.
[42:09] We actually initially had a budget that was closer to been three amounts taken when I started the
[42:16] process.
[42:17] That's what most of the numbers were coming in.
[42:20] And I worked with a number of people when people were calling the ask and me about the
[42:25] big booths I was going to like.
[42:27] Yeah.
[42:28] And these are making many of them because I was trying to save as much as possible as I could
[42:33] see.
[42:36] Okay.
[42:38] So I'd like you to have a bit of insight into it if you don't mind.
[42:42] Okay.
[42:43] I'm okay with the fees okay with the money.
[42:45] Yeah.
[42:46] Did you hear the question that you exchange?
[42:48] Yeah.
[42:50] I've been following along.
[42:52] Okay.
[42:53] Don't see particular problems.
[42:57] Okay.
[43:01] So, and you recommend this?
[43:03] Yes.
[43:04] All right.
[43:05] So, do we have a motion to approve item 13, which is a purchase of new hardware?
[43:09] Any motion?
[43:10] And a second?
[43:11] Roll call please?
[43:12] Aye.
[43:13] Aye.
[43:14] Thanks David.
[43:16] Item 14.
[43:17] Capital Ventures.
[43:18] Government Relations LLC claimed for our April claim for 3000.
[43:27] This is Stuart that's doing the workforce with flooding issues.
[43:33] And we're also trying to work on some infrastructure stuff.
[43:36] I know this is on here every month.
[43:37] I just want to remind everyone what that is.
[43:40] Do we have a motion to approve?
[43:45] And a second?
[43:48] Second.
[43:49] Roll call please?
[43:51] Aye.
[43:52] Joseph.
[43:54] Aye.
[43:56] Aye.
[43:57] Thank you.
[43:58] Item 15.
[43:59] Construction Manager at Risk Contract Approval with Magnum Construction.
[44:03] Aye.
[44:19] On the VA.
[44:20] This tells you just, I mean, I get a real quick of what it is that they're going to be doing for us.
[44:26] You can scroll with this a little bit.
[44:33] This is their cost of work.
[44:35] And we did question to make sure that they were comparable to what it was.
[44:39] If you send us several sheets on where they were comparable.
[44:43] And because we've kind of tried to compare them to.
[44:46] Alicia, you've got one introduced?
[44:47] Yeah.
[44:48] Who is this?
[44:49] Oh, I'm so sorry.
[44:50] It's like...
[44:52] There it is.
[44:54] Roller.
[44:55] Your people will be our construction.