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[00:01] Okay, we are now going to all the order of the City Council meeting for today's day and
[00:12] time.
[00:13] Item 2 is public input and unscheduled personal approaches, you know, in the arts, we should
[00:16] just address the council on any of the agenda items.
[00:20] There are being non item 3 is consent agenda, staff is recommending items 4 through 9 for the
[00:27] consent agenda.
[00:28] I just got one comment on that, okay.
[00:30] There is in regards to item 7, and I know we discussed at the last meeting that we
[00:36] was going to take that to the CBB and we did and I appreciate can be in there.
[00:40] I just want to touch everybody that we did speak to the CBB board and we're recommending
[00:47] a personal recommendation.
[00:48] It's recommending a personal approval of that, so if there's no comment on any of the other
[00:53] items, do we have most of your approval of the consent agenda?
[00:58] Second.
[00:59] Second.
[01:00] Roll call please.
[01:01] Johnson.
[01:02] Forester.
[01:03] High.
[01:04] Weston.
[01:05] High.
[01:06] Lewis.
[01:07] I chose.
[01:08] Item 10 is presentation by Arrogens Associates of the fiscal year of 1617, Arrogant Financial
[01:13] Statements and the Independent, Arrogant Property Report.
[01:16] How are you?
[01:18] We appreciate you making the drive up.
[01:21] I hope you are warm on your way back.
[01:24] Okay.
[01:25] This was great.
[01:26] I'm not sure there's very warm.
[01:27] There's very warm.
[01:28] There's very much good.
[01:29] My name is Andy Komer.
[01:30] I'm a CPA and I'm talking about Arrogant Associates.
[01:32] We're at an Edmund.
[01:34] We did you on its many years ago and then come back this is our second year since May, years.
[01:41] So you should have two documents in front of you.
[01:44] One is a big thing.
[01:45] One of your actual annual financial statements.
[01:47] The other one is a required communication waiver.
[01:50] If you don't have enough, okay.
[01:51] I don't like to make you go through it.
[01:53] Read it.
[01:54] I mean, because there's a couple of things I just want to tell you.
[01:57] And I've got my notes on you.
[01:58] But the first thing is, Arrogant Associates.
[02:01] Essentially, we have two reports in here.
[02:04] And then the rest of us, that is just your financial information.
[02:06] The first one is the Autopinian where we say, your financial statements are literally correct.
[02:11] So it's what we call a cleanup bin in an amount of part of the bin.
[02:14] That's what the state wants to see.
[02:17] That's what you end this out to does with the expectancy and lawlessness.
[02:21] So there's no modifications to that.
[02:23] Just to stand and report.
[02:25] Then there's also a second report, if you want to hurry back.
[02:29] That's required by the state of Oklahoma.
[02:31] That means the tax activity.
[02:33] And it's essentially, kind of, there's two things.
[02:36] One is your internal control.
[02:38] So if there's issues with your internal control that we want to comment on.
[02:42] That's what we would put that in here.
[02:44] The second section deals with compliance with laws of regulations.
[02:48] And you might say, compliance with law laws.
[02:51] It can be compliance with the laws of the state of Oklahoma.
[02:55] And you can just be compliance with laws of the land.
[02:58] Maybe your own policies that you want.
[03:00] So anything type of compliance that's significant, those issues will be back here.
[03:05] So there's nothing back there.
[03:07] So the letters there, but there's nothing on it, you know, to those kind of issues.
[03:11] So that's good, and that's what you call it.
[03:14] But just one lecture would be a word on that.
[03:16] Then as far as the actual numbers and I'll just briefly
[03:19] on about this and if you don't have questions at all and I'll address it
[03:23] by the amount of kittis, kittis, kittis, kittis, kittis, kittis.
[03:25] If we just look into the general fun of myself, you've got about
[03:29] about two months worth of fun bags.
[03:32] You know, if you can pair it to revenues.
[03:35] And so this doesn't mean kittis, you rainy day fun.
[03:37] It's just your general fun.
[03:39] And so I think the general idea is to have three to six months.
[03:43] Yeah, it's a great place to be.
[03:45] So you're very close to that.
[03:46] So I don't think that's a concern.
[03:48] And especially before you're rainy day fun, you know,
[03:51] how did you find kittis at that, but you can be low over that.
[03:54] So I think you're doing a well there.
[03:56] The spot has the utilities and I know I couldn't quite
[04:00] get all of that, but I heard it come up a few times, but you
[04:04] have utility fund.
[04:06] You've got about a $4 million profit before, and you know,
[04:09] you start moving money on the $20 funds.
[04:12] So just a little, just a tad under $4 million.
[04:16] So that seems to be doing very well.
[04:17] You know, the rates in the general institution of capital,
[04:21] you know, so it can do its business.
[04:24] And I keep going.
[04:25] So really, those are really, you know, two primary funds,
[04:28] a job fund and a utility fund.
[04:31] And so both of those appear to be done well.
[04:33] And of course, you have to do wherever you're rainy day fun.
[04:36] So really, that's kind of this report in that show.
[04:39] I have a couple of questions.
[04:40] I did not make sure if this was for you or Dean Houd.
[04:43] I'm doing the qualitative aspects that there's a sentence.
[04:49] It starts out effect your July one, the single implement
[04:51] new accounting standard regarding its post-employment benefits.
[04:54] I'm assuming that's retirement.
[04:57] It's retirement, it's any kind of a,
[05:01] anything you want to occur on post-employment,
[05:04] it's sure it's going to be anything you want it on.
[05:10] And what are the accounting changes being made and why?
[05:15] Are they being made because the federal government said,
[05:17] we need to do it differently or the same?
[05:19] Well, this comes from, there's a separate body that
[05:22] moves in the new jersey or the, that issues accounting standards.
[05:28] Right, guys, the governmental accounting standards board.
[05:30] They're the official group that says, here's how you need to have things.
[05:35] So you've got your pension plan,
[05:39] you know, please don't fire them at the city plan.
[05:42] The forward, well, now those, the police and the fire are both under fun.
[05:47] And so now each city has to report their portion of that unfunded liability.
[05:52] And now, so that's an effect.
[05:54] And now, this hope that this is what your portion of the post-employment benefits.
[06:00] that relates to your health insurance.
[06:03] And in that most cities, and you include most cities,
[06:09] well, once their employee gets retirement age,
[06:12] they can retire, but stay on the insurance plan.
[06:16] And pay them some rent, they don't wait for free.
[06:20] They got to pay for them.
[06:22] But the right that of that retiree is paying
[06:25] as a subsidized fee.
[06:27] It's lower than what they would pay on their own
[06:29] in a free morning.
[06:30] Because they've got younger people,
[06:32] you know, help them bring that right down there.
[06:33] They're up there, the oldest in.
[06:35] So they've got younger people,
[06:36] help them blend that right.
[06:38] And so, guys, because now, said, you've got your parents
[06:42] and expenses, people go along,
[06:44] and we want to recognize the livelihood of you for that.
[06:47] You're not going to pay for that until they get to time.
[06:50] And it's kind of hard to grasp if I get that.
[06:53] And if you don't, it's okay.
[06:54] But it's new.
[06:56] And it's going to hit next year.
[06:58] Well, they're year and night.
[07:00] And usually, that's, it depends on kind of view of it.
[07:03] Usually, it's a decent size number.
[07:07] And that liability will be, you know,
[07:09] it could be a couple of million islands.
[07:11] But it's, I mean, it's not like it's 10,000 dollars.
[07:14] Right.
[07:15] And so, we really want to know the actual,
[07:17] we'll have to get the parents that in and when we learn that,
[07:19] we'll be able to get them out of the car.
[07:22] So it's nothing that the city is done differently
[07:25] or wrong or poorly, it's just a reflection
[07:27] of the change in the counting standards.
[07:29] OK.
[07:32] On page 200 other matters, there's RSI,
[07:36] consent responses to inquiries, does that have an acronym?
[07:39] But what does that acronym represent?
[07:41] States for, uh, where do you, where is that?
[07:46] We're going to find something more information.
[07:48] RSI, yes.
[07:50] OK.
[07:51] But I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't.
[07:53] That's OK.
[07:54] That's what I'm doing next.
[07:55] But RSI, there's, states for required
[07:58] supplemental information, and so there are things
[08:00] and here.
[08:02] Again, it's just, kind of, kind of, I've
[08:06] wrong and technical with how that all means,
[08:08] all things and good things.
[08:09] But as the sources of some supplemental schedules,
[08:13] that are not part of the typical set of financial statements,
[08:16] but gas BSS, you've got to do it anyway.
[08:19] And really, it relates to the pension plan,
[08:21] in a specific way, the place in fire plants.
[08:24] So you can see, you know, how those plans are funded,
[08:27] what you share those plans is, you're just one
[08:30] C, yeah, hundreds of cities that are in those plans.
[08:33] And so how much of that whole unfunded liability
[08:36] are you all receiving and how much, you know,
[08:40] the same as that means, what's back there?
[08:44] And then in C, you know, C, you're increased our reserves
[08:46] for uncollectable utility receivables by 470,000.
[08:50] I mean, that's not all.
[08:51] That didn't all happen one year.
[08:53] We just increase in the reserves.
[08:55] What happened is, we're going to fall back there for a second.
[09:00] There's a self-association from a doctor's association.
[09:03] It's a lot of my experience.
[09:04] For example, they're in Worcester's kind of boss and you're there.
[09:08] But they help the city get ready for the day.
[09:10] They might help you just there in the air.
[09:12] But then they come up at the air in and help you get ready for a lot of the day.
[09:15] They actually prefer to get ready for the day before.
[09:17] And then we literally make changes in whatever.
[09:20] But they come up with part of that pre-automatic.
[09:22] They've adjusted the...
[09:24] The...
[09:25] The...
[09:26] The...
[09:27] It's pretty much just the calculation of the way that it's done here.
[09:30] And so the calculation was done when they posted the entry.
[09:33] They got posted backwards.
[09:35] And so this 470 is really the double effect.
[09:39] Just to get it on your right way.
[09:41] If that makes sense.
[09:43] It's really the actual entry within 3,000 or so.
[09:47] And so keep in mind also that you all like,
[09:51] virtually in the other city, you never really ride off or receive them.
[09:55] You know, most couples at some point actually ride off.
[09:58] And so they're...
[09:59] They're around.
[10:00] So that can't just doesn't get bigger throughout.
[10:02] Because you're constantly trying those receipts.
[10:04] You're receiving those receipts.
[10:05] You're constantly getting bigger.
[10:06] Because you never ride one off.
[10:07] You know, if someone moves back, you can be able to use the ropes.
[10:10] You know, if they move out with that.
[10:12] So really that's why this thing is just still getting bigger.
[10:15] So every year there's going to be some adjustment.
[10:17] Just because every year you're receiving them.
[10:19] But we have things.
[10:21] That's just a little bit down.
[10:23] Right.
[10:24] So a period of time.
[10:25] You've been in the best home.
[10:28] And all you're doing the 470 is really just correcting the entry.
[10:34] I mean, they made it entry based on their calculation of what it was going to be or projected to be.
[10:39] They've just to mistake and the way they did that.
[10:41] So you're correcting that posting is what that represents.
[10:47] Okay.
[10:48] So before I forget, the Crawford's do a very good job.
[10:54] And we work with them on a number of cities.
[10:56] But we're a total of our separate forms.
[10:58] Separate ownership, separate forms.
[11:00] It's definitely a deal.
[11:02] And one of them, they are.
[11:03] They do a very good job.
[11:05] And yes, what we mean.
[11:06] So certainly enjoy working with them as well.
[11:09] Questions?
[11:12] Is there an action item here?
[11:15] Green?
[11:16] Which is a presentation.
[11:20] What we just have a presentation.
[11:23] Okay.
[11:24] Mr. Crawford.
[11:26] Thank you for your time.
[11:27] Appreciate it.
[11:28] Thank you.
[11:30] Thank you.
[11:31] Thank you.
[11:32] Appreciate it.
[11:33] Thank you.
[11:34] I have a safe feedback.
[11:36] I'm 11.
[11:37] How could you choose proposal for any Georgian or what?
[11:39] We talked about this.
[11:44] Briefly at the last meeting.
[11:45] And I know that it was absent.
[11:47] So we wanted to carry it forward to this meeting and give everybody an opportunity to think about some of the comments that Georgian had made.
[11:58] And think about it differently.
[12:00] ideas and I don't know I have something to say I don't know if you have something you
[12:04] want to answer my time or if you just come in that because you feel like you're supposed to.
[12:07] No, I'm just here that's terrible.
[12:12] Any questions you want to have to read if they need so.
[12:16] Okay.
[12:17] So I think last time there were some concerns about establishing a precedent that would
[12:28] didn't create potential exposure to the city from the long list of contractors that we
[12:33] have because currently Georgia is a contractor.
[12:36] As distinct from, say, Chuck and Glen were a contract in Poeese.
[12:41] And so if that is concerned, one of the ways around that concern, I'd talk with Kim about
[12:48] this a little bit, would be establishing Georgia and as a contract in Poeese and much in
[12:55] the way that Chuck and Glen are.
[12:58] One of the other issues related to that was, okay, how much if we did that, how much Georgia
[13:07] and how much work is she going to do and is that going to be enough to offset the value of that
[13:13] benefit.
[13:15] And so I talked with Kim again just a little bit before the meeting and I think from our conversation
[13:23] in Georgia and what you were interested in was family coverage, right?
[13:27] Yeah.
[13:29] If it was available.
[13:30] Is that right?
[13:31] Right.
[13:32] But as I understand it, I would be the only one for him, the city only pays for its employee and then
[13:39] the employee that it lets to pay the difference for that.
[13:46] That's the way it currently works for city employees.
[13:51] Now the total amount of that coverage including the city, the employees coverage which
[13:58] is 660 and then the additional coverage for the family would be $1,368.
[14:04] If you divided that by Georgia's current contract or rate with the city of $150 now, that's
[14:12] basically nine hours a month is what?
[14:15] In order to basically cover those costs, that's what Georgia would have to work on behalf
[14:20] of the city.
[14:21] And I think Dean had indicated the last meeting that he felt comfortable at least in the
[14:26] next 12 months period that we would need her services or the services of some outside
[14:32] attorney at least that amount.
[14:36] Good.
[14:37] Nine hours above what I was doing this last year.
[14:41] That's what you mean right?
[14:42] No, I just mean nine hours total.
[14:45] So $1,368 divided by 150 is this is nine hours at your current rate.
[14:53] And so what I have done is asking me what I'm trying to do is get that.
[15:00] Express for everybody the various concerns that came up and then if there's a consensus
[15:07] On the council I would ask me all to
[15:10] Work with Kim to develop a puzzle that would be submitted to the council for consideration and I've just outlined the two points
[15:17] That I remember coming up as concerned. I don't know if there were others
[15:21] And if there are, then we certainly want to talk about
[15:29] How many hours do you ever have reach a month now?
[15:33] Well in calendar year
[15:36] 27
[15:39] So that of course crossed the city's fiscal year because I started in the end of January last year
[15:46] It was about 17 to 18 hours a month
[15:52] And as I explained in my letter, I think some of that was held down a little bit by the fact that I had baby in March
[16:01] And then of course I was dealing with a lot of backlog after that, but so I think both my capacity is greater this year and
[16:11] Dean advises that
[16:14] The need will be greater this year. I have I
[16:17] Manalized it in terms of if we increased if I did
[16:24] More hours I did some of that
[16:27] Would go to cover
[16:29] This cost for the city and then these primary new capital projects that we have
[16:38] Water to the street through
[16:42] So there is one point for the west end of the budget
[16:52] Yeah, I have primarily done
[16:56] Real estate issues and the
[16:59] Contract sort of business side issues and where there is
[17:06] Overlapped between that and more according to the government side ben and I bring more together
[17:16] I guess I shouldn't speak for that
[17:19] For my rather presumptuous
[17:24] In all I'm trying to promise tonight is determined if there's at least a consensus on the council that we want
[17:31] to
[17:32] Consider a proposal and also articulate
[17:36] For since deals agreed to
[17:39] Carry that water so to speak if we do
[17:43] Artigulate for him any other concern besides a couple of things that I am
[17:49] And if there are no others and it would just be a question in the allergic consensus
[17:56] I think if I can talk you know
[18:00] One of the things that I had concerned with is, like you said, on the face of it, it's hard
[18:05] to do this to where I know you got a lot of 32-hour a week and please don't have that
[18:11] option.
[18:12] So I struggle with that, but then I look at it as, you know, I shouldn't punish somebody if they're
[18:18] doing a job force.
[18:19] But I look at how do we, you know, one of the things we always talk about, is how do we know
[18:24] what you're doing?
[18:25] I'm not saying you're not doing it, by all means it's been proven.
[18:29] But it's how do we grade somebody and, you know, how do we know who's in charge of that?
[18:36] Who's overseeing and unlisted?
[18:38] Well, Dean wasn't clarifying what's getting done and what's getting passed.
[18:42] So you know, I struggle with that, but I really have a hard time with a lot of people that
[18:48] would, you know, work for the city that don't get this option, so it's where I really would
[18:55] like and I appreciate you stepping up and working.
[18:57] I don't want to, I feel very uneasy about changing our healthcare plan because I know that
[19:02] was mentioned that it could, and I want to, I like to know what changes those are and that's
[19:08] where I struggle with it, but I can't, could you come up, please?
[19:12] I just want to echo what Brian said, and that's why, if it is, it is, it can change as long
[19:20] to the council that you all want me to do this and talk with him and see if we can work
[19:24] up and how I think we'll have to do that, but if not, it's going to work, that is.
[19:30] So there are a lot of importantness depending on how we do this.
[19:34] So what this one day was given opportunity, I get to down the field and we can look at some
[19:38] different scenarios and what that would mean and could be more specific with you about what
[19:42] that would be.
[19:45] We've talked about the change to the health-land document would be if we were going to offer a
[19:51] contractor assistance, which we've talked about is probably going to open up kind of a
[19:58] family response that we don't want to get out, but if we're talking about a contract employee,
[20:02] then there wouldn't be any change to the health-land document.
[20:05] It's no different than what we do for a municipal judge, but we get this done together
[20:11] and we're going to answer those questions there.
[20:13] Right, and I think the mayor's touched on my, and that's the stuff I, and I do call a
[20:21] Chuck Chestnut because I had to frame the reference and ask him how many hours he works
[20:27] a month and he said, the 2020 and 25 is depending on last week, they were in four, for five
[20:34] hours because we go a lot of tickets, but he said it fluctuates between 2020 and 25 or
[20:38] month is what he felt comfortable, and he has to make a new work.
[20:45] You know, and you look at the 17 hours I believe is what you put, what you said at 150 and then
[20:51] if you drop it at 2125 and you jump up to 28, you do get an increase there of, you know,
[20:56] just under $1,000 and that kind of awful.
[21:00] that you're $900 and some dollars. So I see where that's going. But I would feel comfortable
[21:07] if you're willing to step up and do that to see what our options are. I would like to, I would personally like to do that.
[21:15] I think it's pretty much often George Ann's shoes for a minute. If there's a way to do this
[21:24] where there's a, let's just say you're a contract employee for I'm using 10 hours because nine hours
[21:31] for us, you know, did the math a few minutes ago. You're better off because then all of that comes out pretty
[21:36] tax. If you have to pay some of that then you have to pay it with after tax dollars. And so to the extent that
[21:44] if something gets worked out it can be structured in that way to just better off. I mean, I mean that's
[21:50] cost to see to anything in that respect, it just saves her tax dollars. Just like any of us now that are paying,
[21:58] you know, our premiums pre-tacks. So just from a structural standpoint keep that in mind, it would be
[22:07] her benefit and the cost to the city as far as that goes. So what you're asking us to do is give our blessing for
[22:13] me all to save like the more I can see if we can work this out. Okay. Everybody give it that. Yeah.
[22:22] Okay. I'm good with that. I understand Brian's concerns. I just need to know if you all have concerns.
[22:28] It's something we need to do. My concern is she needs to be a contract employee before we even offer insurance
[22:35] because if we just do it to am I saying that right? Yeah. I think I completely. I think Kim was made clear that we
[22:43] could want to we don't want to mess with our family. So the only way is the only way is going to work,
[22:49] I think is if we're able to work out the work out situation where she's a contract employee like Chuck
[22:56] Ann. Ben? Yeah. I just want to point out that if that is the way that you decide to proceed and all the way to work for
[23:05] the industry. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay.
[23:17] He would draw off all the paperwork. George Ann wouldn't be involved in drawing up or what she's
[23:21] she mentioned last time to that she wouldn't be involved drawing up her own. Her own deal. It works out that way.
[23:29] No, I agree. I'd like to let you dig into little deeper and see what you know well options we have.
[23:37] I mean you're taking it to another level of adding position that has to be maintained and
[23:45] accountant for what they do and I just want to make sure that how do we address that? That's all I want.
[23:51] That's not a problem. I thought I just want to make sure that we
[23:54] will end to your point and maybe I'm going to talk about this earlier that we're addressed.
[24:00] saying they're contract employing now and we first had a candle and bad in the election and
[24:04] we started like that, that's something we didn't put off, I put off, but that's your concern.
[24:16] Well, and also I am fully in favor of accountability because I think that makes everybody
[24:27] better as they do, but as I see it kind of the way the city's structure I would be reporting
[24:36] to Ben, I mean I'm reported to Ben right now anyway, but that's he would be, I mean Ben is
[24:42] the head of the legal department and you always want that far away from me at the end of the
[24:47] end.
[24:48] For that, and honestly I have no problem with that, I just want to make sure that that's
[24:52] outlined and that's put forth and how do we know we're getting that 20 out of what, you know,
[24:59] the people out there feel comfortable and we're going to offer this, feel we're getting
[25:03] our 28 hours and if we can do that, we're going to do that.
[25:08] You're just saying 28 hours, for example, make sure, yes, because what was presented.
[25:16] Okay, thank you Jordan.
[25:21] I think him and Neil are playing on meeting next Monday, and after both of the day we have
[25:28] some something back to a break with whatever that might be.
[25:33] Okay, good day.
[25:38] See if I can find my idea.
[25:40] Item 12, ordinance 2018-02, I'm ending the rainy day fun, basically, and I know we talked about
[25:49] this some before June, or fresh our memory please.
[25:56] So at the last meeting, we talked about some changes to the 28 day fun.
[26:00] You all brought out in the discussion that we had that you wanted it to be very, very clear
[26:08] and the new ordinance that, to withdraw money from the rainy day fun, will require the majority
[26:15] of the board and has to do this.
[26:19] So we didn't run into a situation where, for instance, there were only three council members present.
[26:25] So we had a forum, and then two of those three, which is less than half the door, the board
[26:34] approves withdrawing money from the deal.
[26:37] So I went back in and made that one change, where we were, and it simply provides that
[26:44] the required majority of the entire board, whatever board consists of at that one time,
[26:51] saying right now we have five, so we require at least three to be able to withdraw money from that.
[27:01] And that's really the only change that we have in what you have before it's in the eye for what it's going to look like we have at the last
[27:09] Any questions for being on that?
[27:12] Okay, we have a most jeopardy
[27:15] What do you think?
[27:17] Second, roll ball
[27:19] Johnson
[27:20] Forester
[27:21] Forester
[27:22] Lewis, I'm Schultz
[27:24] I'm 13, also engineering master agreement for stone, stone, covert, processing
[27:30] That's set around
[27:32] Alicia
[27:33] Yes, sir
[27:34] As you all know
[27:36] Excuse me
[27:37] We are working on this flash pad
[27:39] We wanted the things that we had talked about
[27:43] Was where we can join
[27:46] Joe Paul, which is down here
[27:50] And with the flash pad and of course this is prior to the building being demolished
[27:55] We had come up with also a pretty one here
[27:58] And you'll notice this is the parking lot and this is the parking lot for Joe Paul
[28:02] We will make this into a
[28:05] We're calling it a bridge drainage cover
[28:09] We'll be able to drive our
[28:11] Maybe it's equipment over
[28:13] If we had a truck or something that we need to drive over it to get to in front of would be able to do that
[28:19] Mainly it would be a pedestrian crossing so that people can park at the Joe Paul parking lot
[28:25] We'll be able to walk over and get to our splash pad
[28:29] We also are looking at doing this one here
[28:35] This is public works right here
[28:39] Right now in order to do the moving or maintenance or anything of any of these we have to get out onto the road
[28:45] From all the way around and take care of it
[28:48] If we want to do any maintenance to Joe Paul and you have to drive all the way around
[28:53] This would give us access and he or our equipment
[28:57] We're not going to drive onto the road and it just makes much much more sense
[29:01] In order to be able to do that
[29:03] That's where we're closing the night the workowner
[29:06] So that also can start what we need to do to get that started
[29:12] One of the things that Sean would like to do is
[29:16] Kind of explore some some good options as far as cost-effectiveness and things like that
[29:23] We do want a concrete box at the large area
[29:27] Dean made a very good point this is a part you want it to look
[29:31] You want it to look nice you don't want just you know you're your round
[29:35] Corgated steel in there where it doesn't look hard for the
[29:39] But we also want it very usable and friendly in that sense
[29:44] So it wouldn't be a concrete box
[29:46] So at least you can go back over there please
[29:48] So first a small one you're just going to put a cover in there
[29:53] And some just make it what you can track because that's a great channel
[29:57] Is that a big one?
[30:00] I'm going to put it up all the way to get it to stop, and we're going to be on gate here.
[30:05] And so are these trees still there or go that's what I thought that's what I thought.
[30:11] So, so it's all clear it out and you're just going, there's a quick, it flows through there also.
[30:18] The drainage comes right through here, comes down, comes to the side, runs underneath,
[30:24] D3, and on that way, it carries a significant amount of water.
[30:28] Because it collects the water from across mainstream, and it comes, like I said,
[30:33] under, under and here, and around.
[30:37] So, one of the key things we want to make sure of this, we'll do this project for our inadvertently creating a dam.
[30:43] Yes.
[30:44] Which is also higher in hearing comes in to the water.
[30:48] Can we make sure that we keep that water flowing?
[30:50] Yes.
[30:51] You know, it's a planning commission meeting, and they brought up an interesting point about a fence to keep the kids out of there.
[31:02] I know that you said that the grant that we had was for the splash pad itself.
[31:08] It doesn't cover a fence, but I used to work at that building, and when you get heavy rains, it's a splash flood behind that.
[31:17] Hopefully, no kids would be back there during that time, but that was a concern of the plan commission.
[31:25] Very, very important about keeping children out of there, and that's something that we are looking at now.
[31:30] The plan commission isn't awesome.
[31:32] You're talking about the questions that we don't think about, and they're very good questions.
[31:37] It's actually, you guys came up with how would you access one to the other, so that's what better started on this.
[31:44] And then also, it is still in the plan for the water off of the splash pad to go into that creek, and it's okay.
[31:55] You guys still have to do this and retain the salt and then like that when you take care of it.
[32:00] Okay.
[32:01] Well, the water coming off the splash pad is not going to be an additional water that's going to be coming while it's raining or heavy rains,
[32:07] because it's going to be like that.
[32:09] It probably will be a minute.
[32:10] It will be water that's where it's going to, you know, be like that.
[32:14] Okay.
[32:15] That's why why not does theirs?
[32:16] They'll be a little creek to break.
[32:18] And keep them on this.
[32:19] It's just a bottle of tap water.
[32:21] It's what's right on.
[32:22] That's treated.
[32:24] We're going to blow it back.
[32:25] We're going to start you getting anything.
[32:26] Other than, so it comes out of your cap.
[32:34] How long is this?
[32:35] What are we looking at on this?
[32:37] To take place?
[32:38] It's a much, much, much shorter than the highway 125.
[32:46] Yes.
[32:47] Okay.
[32:48] It's still a check.
[32:49] This isn't going to slow down the opening of the pad, right?
[32:55] No.
[32:56] Hopefully this will help.
[32:58] Maybe get it rolling.
[33:00] This also, Dean had mentioned before, ODEEQ being able to do some remediation, and they're
[33:08] like they've done in our other park down there.
[33:10] This will help that because it joins these as one park.
[33:13] That was one of the hangups that ODEEQ had was because that was an industrial side.
[33:18] This is a park and we'll now be joining them together to make them into one of the things.
[33:24] So we need to pass any kind of ordinance, guesignating that as a park, and as at the process,
[33:29] or as it is, you know, we address the issue of how does a park look at a park, and there's
[33:36] really not a lot to it that didn't even be designated as an park, but another area that we're
[33:43] talking about, the original stat hard work made for these.
[33:48] So I mean, as if you need it, it doesn't need you going to blame something before us.
[34:00] Now, while you can make sure that we get help from ODEEQ, that's necessary.
[34:06] Well, I don't point out that the mayor has to wait as much upon, if it sounds good.
[34:13] We could possibly see that there's a proper mention to make it happen, or it would be a reunion.
[34:18] Okay.
[34:19] Do that for us.
[34:20] Kind of assuming that's going to all go through parks and rec, or, of course, they be in all that
[34:25] on the side of that.
[34:26] A lot of different parks and rec work, of course.
[34:28] Why are there, of course, are also going to mention that next week, we're bringing the
[34:32] question for the council.
[34:34] Yes.
[34:35] Well, the recommendation of the committee for the architect.
[34:39] So we're going to be there while you'll be considering that, actually.
[34:44] I mean, the reason I'm bringing this up is that however you feel about the laws of having drugs
[34:50] within 500 feet, or 1,000 feet, or 2,000 feet of a park, I would assume that there's some legal
[34:56] designation that makes something a park or not.
[34:59] And so, I think we need to make sure we do that.
[35:04] Do you need a motion player?
[35:09] Yes.
[35:10] So we're going to order the word for us.
[35:13] And second.
[35:14] We'll probably.
[35:15] Johnson.
[35:16] Lewis.
[35:17] I.
[35:18] Western.
[35:19] Forester.
[35:20] I.
[35:21] Thank you.
[35:22] I'm 14 new business in any new business.
[35:24] I'm 15.
[35:26] Staff reports, which are in your packet.
[35:28] They're available if you have questions.
[35:30] Yeah.
[35:31] And then the election would you mind on a picture on the spot on the what's going on down
[35:38] and shelters that's playing warming there and during this cold.
[35:42] It is.
[35:43] It is.
[35:44] A little human because we're, you know, we're still playing things out, so there's some water in there,
[35:48] but.
[35:49] It stay in warm it.
[35:51] It's working as it.
[35:52] It was expected to do.
[35:54] We've had a little bit of trouble with our quarantine shelter, but we've got that fixed right now.
[36:00] where we've got good heat in there and old unit and the heat strips and just gone
[36:04] and so we got that take place.
[36:07] We have moved the cast, I don't know if you've been in there, we closed off the wall
[36:15] that was the bright room and opened up the wall to the medical room to what was the
[36:23] bright room to expand that and that made a little out of the medical room and that's
[36:28] what we're keeping the cast now.
[36:30] They're completely away from all of the dogs and there are far away from the dogs as
[36:35] you have them in that particular shelter, so we still have to go.
[36:40] We stay at the absolute of the dogs, we're getting ready to move 9 to a rescue this
[36:45] coming third day night though, so we've had relatively few calls, I've just
[36:52] been seeing stuff so bad here in the game, relatively few calls since it's gotten
[36:58] really cooler out, but we do stay pretty steady with what calls I think.
[37:04] Speaking of, don't go away, speaking of relatively few calls with the recent weather issues
[37:10] as a couple of days, I know there's not much you can do on some of the first day
[37:15] to snow, but I know today the streets were getting much better, and I know you've
[37:19] got some crews out working on that, so I appreciate staff for doing that.
[37:24] That's right, I'm so proud.
[37:26] Yeah, that's just what it was.
[37:28] Yes, they started at 6.30 yesterday morning and ran into 11 o'clock last night, went home and
[37:34] came back at four o'clock and we kind of staggered them a little bit today and ran into four
[37:39] o'clock and then we'll come back in at 6.37 o'clock tomorrow morning and started, the weather
[37:44] is pretty clear as far as our main main right now.
[37:49] Our problem is, is once it starts getting cold and you've got water on those roads, then it turns
[37:54] into black eyes.
[37:55] How can we need this mean?
[37:56] It's just what you're saying, once we leave this mean here and here and here and here and here.
[38:00] Please be careful, yes, so.
[38:01] Thank you, sir.
[38:02] We'll have this mean, he has a brain, couldn't make it through.
[38:07] Okay, Mayor and Council, Mayor and Council believe in the accidents in the other direction.
[38:19] It's called outside city manager communication.
[38:23] Very quickly, it's called to provide you a steady session.
[38:26] That's good.
[38:27] It's called to be at 4.30.
[38:30] It'll be 25 degrees and like something we said, please be careful at home because it's
[39:00] Did you make a most Georgia?
[39:02] Do you want me to?
[39:03] Yes.
[39:04] I'll make a most Georgia.
[39:05] And I'll suck it.
[39:06] Well, it's all.