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[00:01] Okay, we're now wanting to move into regular city council meeting for today's day.
[00:11] Adam too is public input and schedule personal parameters.
[00:14] The only audience that wishes to address the council on any of the agenda items.
[00:19] And there being none out of three is consent agenda staff is recommending items for three seven for the consent agenda.
[00:25] If there are no questions on either of those items, we'll enter a motion to approve.
[00:30] May I write a motion to approve items?
[00:32] Pour two seven on the consent agenda.
[00:34] And a second.
[00:35] I'll second it.
[00:36] Will call please.
[00:38] Johnson.
[00:39] Lewis time.
[00:40] Weston.
[00:41] Forester.
[00:42] All right.
[00:43] I'm going to read item eight that I'm asking you to come in on it.
[00:46] Item eight is a mid demolition permanent application requiring proof of insurance.
[00:51] Name in the city as an additional insured and proof of what this compensation insurance
[00:55] or an average of an exemption and a $50,000 performance blind executed by the contractor.
[01:01] I said being.
[01:03] Well, actually that's correct.
[01:04] The first is going to do the presentation on the side of it.
[01:07] But one thing I did want to ask the council about.
[01:09] This is not a time certain item.
[01:11] And I want to compliment Christy and Ben on the work that they've done on this.
[01:15] I've supported 100%.
[01:17] But what we're giving you this evening is basically the approval of about a five page document.
[01:23] And generally speaking, I don't like to do that.
[01:25] At a council meeting, right, just hand you something that's that long and ask you to approve it.
[01:30] So what I'd like to do is ask Christy and Ben to get the presentation of this is about.
[01:36] But then if you'd like to think about it a little bit, we can put this on another agenda for actual approval.
[01:42] So I just, I never want to pitch it a position unless we really have to approve a long document where you haven't had it.
[01:48] It was just given to you tonight.
[01:51] So that's basically it.
[01:53] I know a lot of good work has gone into this.
[01:55] Okay.
[01:56] Christy?
[01:57] So what this is, a few years back, a project started here at the city to revise the demo permit application.
[02:07] The current demo permit application is very simple.
[02:12] And it's much like another building permit application.
[02:15] So there's just a couple of questions asked.
[02:18] And it's reviewed, no plans are submitted or anything like that.
[02:23] And then it signed off on.
[02:26] And what I understand a few years ago, it was decided that we needed to strengthen our demo permit application to include the addition of exactly what the requirements are for a demo contractor.
[02:41] Because when you're demo property, you can't just take it there and then, you know, discard of the debris.
[02:49] It has to be brought back to a mobile surface, the point of, you know, exactly where it's at.
[02:56] So there's certainly requirements that get a body, whether it's a public.
[03:00] or private demo that have to be met.
[03:02] So the demo permit was revised to include those requirements,
[03:07] which are in our ordinances,
[03:10] it's something that's always been there,
[03:12] but making sure that when they sign the application,
[03:16] they understand when they're signing,
[03:17] they are agreeing to do all of these things
[03:21] that we require our city contractor to do.
[03:25] It's part of his build, and he has to take care of that.
[03:30] The other thing that's different on the demo permit application
[03:34] is the requirement for a performance bond.
[03:37] And that was done to help provide a little security
[03:42] to the city on projects that are larger
[03:45] that we might need to make sure that if somebody says
[03:48] they're going to demo a property,
[03:51] and they start the process that we have some assurance
[03:56] and whatever end if they take off on during the project
[04:01] that we've got something to help us finish the project,
[04:04] if that's the case.
[04:05] So the way the permit is written is it requires a $50,000 performance bond.
[04:12] However, the city manager or his or her does it mean
[04:17] can authorize somebody to wave that bond.
[04:20] So every contractor that comes in to demo a property will get this,
[04:25] and we have the ability based on the size of the project,
[04:29] where the property is at, different things like that,
[04:31] to decide whether or not they do need a performance bond or not,
[04:35] but at least we have it written into the application
[04:38] and they're aware of it at the time that they're filling it out.
[04:43] So Chris, do you want to use the good Rick's plan as an exam?
[04:47] I think that's part of what started this.
[04:49] I guess my concern is, in that example,
[04:56] what $50,000 have been enough?
[04:58] No, it's at the $50,000 minimum.
[05:02] Okay. So it's, I mean, that's going to be part of the discussion
[05:06] before the application has approved.
[05:08] Okay. That's part of what has to be talked about
[05:10] is what those requirements need to be,
[05:12] whether we wait them because they're not appropriate for somebody
[05:17] that's demoing a house or whether it needs to be more than $50,000
[05:21] if it's a bigger project than that.
[05:24] Okay. And a man that specifically was the project
[05:28] that we were concerned about when we were looking at drafts.
[05:35] And so with whom does that discretion look?
[05:40] He decides the, the sum manager. He can assign that responsibility to someone else,
[05:48] but in here it says the city manager, he's doesn't mean.
[05:53] But if a similar situation arose and we felt that a million dollar
[05:58] before his law was.
[06:00] necessary, then that's what we would ask for.
[06:02] Exactly.
[06:04] Do we always have people go out and inspect
[06:07] after the demolition?
[06:09] Or do we have them during the process also?
[06:11] So I think that was kind of a moves practice before.
[06:17] I can say that now that demos are in community development,
[06:23] they go and inspect every property that's demoed.
[06:26] So after the demo is completed,
[06:30] they go back and check the property to make sure
[06:33] that it has had the fill problem that needs
[06:36] that all the debris is moved from the property
[06:40] and so that when the grass starts growing,
[06:43] grass will grow and it is a mobile surface.
[06:46] So that's something we're going to be more attentive to.
[06:49] Oh yes, they're required to,
[06:51] I can tell you right now that they have to inspect every demo.
[06:55] Yeah, they have to.
[06:57] Once all of that's done,
[06:59] check off of, then it turns into a coding
[07:02] enforcement to keep up with it to make sure that.
[07:05] Right, grass.
[07:06] This is issue, yeah.
[07:07] And if it's one that we demolish, then we follow
[07:10] the link to concept property.
[07:11] Yes.
[07:12] And we had any confines with some of the demolition
[07:15] as far as, I've seen,
[07:18] I have, like I said, I haven't got a chance to read this,
[07:20] but like the best issue,
[07:22] we had that problem out there.
[07:24] We had that problem out of Gergriss.
[07:27] It really brought up as far as the dust.
[07:30] And we had any confines about that.
[07:34] About the bridge, as well.
[07:36] No, we had it.
[07:37] But we were just, but that was a different kind of.
[07:40] No, we haven't had any.
[07:41] I would expect with the EP demo getting ready to start
[07:45] towards the middle to the end of April.
[07:47] That's in a real congested business area.
[07:50] And there's probably going to be some challenges there.
[07:54] I think the odd thing is we probably have more complaints
[07:57] with some of the construction that's been taking place
[07:59] on the vacant loss of the day.
[08:01] Yes.
[08:02] I have an agreement.
[08:05] Okay.
[08:06] Okay.
[08:08] So thank you, Christy.
[08:10] I would ask that everybody take time
[08:13] between now and the next council meeting to kind of read through this
[08:16] and see if you have any questions or concerns or suggestions
[08:20] if you do.
[08:21] Yes, certainly call Christy.
[08:24] Before the end, if you have an opportunity to.
[08:28] If that the issues.
[08:29] And then we'll have this as an agenda item for our next meeting.
[08:33] As I stress, I think they've done a great job on it.
[08:35] But I just want to give you the time to look at it.
[08:37] If there's any questions, give you an opportunity to ask.
[08:40] Okay.
[08:43] We will then move on to item nine.
[08:49] Which is Resolution CC-2017.
[08:51] Dialects are proving community financial support and fee labor
[08:55] to the Man 2 and 30.
[08:57] There are a lot of them.
[09:00] and the structure is located at, as it's listed there,
[09:03] and Christie that I wish you're named next to it also.
[09:06] Yes, so this is an economic development
[09:08] and so if that we're looking at here,
[09:11] and these pictures were included in their packets.
[09:13] So, the thing that not a motive is building
[09:16] the building that's in the top left of the frame there.
[09:22] That's the building that they're building,
[09:24] and back behind it is 320B, southeast the blue house,
[09:29] and that is a house that they have bought,
[09:32] and that thing on his butt, it is one in detail there,
[09:35] and bring that property into his business,
[09:38] so make that area all their part of his business
[09:43] that he's got, they'll go in on there.
[09:45] The other pictures that are just kind of giving
[09:47] an idea of the condition of the home,
[09:50] or the structure, the property that we're looking at taking down.
[09:55] So, as in the siloive team,
[09:57] Mr. Thineland, one of the things that we have talked about
[10:02] doing the idea for others that came to us with it,
[10:06] is to demo the structure because this is a home
[10:09] as you can tell that would be on the demo list anyway.
[10:13] It's not, and if somebody bought it,
[10:16] they would have a certain time period to get it secured
[10:20] in up and running, so most of the time
[10:22] is just easier to take it down.
[10:25] So, it's all your property, or looking at it to demo,
[10:29] and he's willing to do something good with it,
[10:31] as far as bringing it into his business,
[10:33] it won't be something that the city has to keep up with,
[10:37] or know, or try to sell to someone else.
[10:41] But we'll end up happening, is it will have
[10:44] a metal privacy fence put around it,
[10:47] and it'll be storage of that, you know,
[10:49] some kind of nature for him and his business there.
[10:54] With the privacy fence, I'll ensure that whatever he stores back there
[10:57] is within code.
[10:58] Right, so with our codes, you can have anything in your backyard
[11:05] that might not look the best,
[11:06] but you have to have a privacy fence around it.
[11:09] It can't be visible from the alley, or, you know,
[11:12] from the neighbors, or something like that.
[11:15] Chris, I'm just curious, in that first picture
[11:17] that shows his new building,
[11:19] there's a blue building to the left, is that the building?
[11:21] Yeah, I was just trying to show you flexibility.
[11:24] How close this is to what he's got going on there.
[11:28] And we actually, Ernst the property now,
[11:32] he obtained the property in this effort
[11:37] to bring it into his business.
[11:40] So he's required the property, and you're asking,
[11:44] this is part of economic development incentive to him,
[11:47] to waive the fees related to dumping the infrastructure.
[11:53] He's saying, I, our city contractor,
[11:55] like we do on any other demo home that we do.
[12:00] having him go over and take down the property and level the ground and then what's that down?
[12:05] He'll Mr. Thillman will come in and do his upgrades to the property.
[12:10] And do you have a ballpark estimate of the value of that?
[12:13] Well, the estimate on the Malsh in the House, the the asbestos that everything has already been done
[12:19] and that didn't come out of the city's pocket, but it's $7,644.
[12:26] And maybe we look at the off-ability of our viewers suggesting just rating the tipping fees,
[12:35] but that actually would have caused the city's borer than what this would cost.
[12:41] Right.
[12:43] And also I think one of the things in the report is when Mr. Thillman is up and operating with his business,
[12:49] it will generate about $8,500 in sales taxes per year.
[12:53] And on top of that, when we did the tipping fee waiver of the policy,
[12:57] we'll also have a new utility customer, where we did that one there before either.
[13:02] So the $7,000 cost of the city will be more than made up of over about a two-year period.
[13:08] And then from there on, we'll have an operating business in town that wasn't here before.
[13:13] It's very much the line with the comprehensive plan when we think about steep elements
[13:18] and that being a major third fair and where we, you know,
[13:23] what we want that to look like going forward and then also removing the evaporated or blight from a residential community.
[13:33] I think he answered one of my concerns with the fence and the fence is basically going to outline the whole property area where the blue house was.
[13:43] You know, I think there's a lot of people that could follow Mr. Thillman's lead.
[13:49] It's going to be a matter to cover up structures that are dilapidated.
[13:55] You know, and there was a very question, you got a big rule there, what's going on behind it.
[14:00] But I mean, I think it's a great thing that they're willing to do that to keep.
[14:06] Sometimes stuff that they're waiting on are fixing.
[14:10] And we repair it. Yes.
[14:12] You need concerns.
[14:18] Is there a set for the fence that goes around that structure?
[14:23] Is there something set that they have to go buy?
[14:26] Is it a four foot six foot?
[14:28] Yeah, it has to be, I believe it's six foot, a six foot metal fence.
[14:33] Do you know what they have plans for their south main businesses?
[14:37] For sale? Are they going to?
[14:39] I'm not sure what their plans are with the south main business.
[14:44] It'd be moving from there.
[14:45] Yeah, they're relocating my business.
[14:48] I'm not sure.
[14:49] And we were going to tear this down anyway.
[14:55] Yes.
[15:00] Yeah, Tommy, obviously that's a man, it's humble.
[15:03] Yeah.
[15:04] Go ahead and end this one in red with I actually know that building.
[15:08] They've been written in 30.
[15:10] There you go.
[15:11] There you go.
[15:14] In the end.
[15:15] Time to finish.
[15:16] I think it's a...
[15:18] Yeah, it's a general building.
[15:19] They have minimal space and that building.
[15:22] Right now.
[15:23] Well, the building that got there, it looks awesome, and it's being built on a spot
[15:29] that was just empty before.
[15:35] Any other questions?
[15:37] Do we have a motion to approve a resolution CC?
[15:41] 2017 to our show six.
[15:43] It's my question.
[15:45] Any second?
[15:46] A little call.
[15:47] All right.
[15:51] For aster?
[15:52] All right.
[15:53] Johnson?
[15:54] Lewis?
[15:55] I've requested.
[15:56] All right.
[15:57] Any new business?
[15:59] Any announcements?
[16:02] I don't know.
[16:05] Okay.
[16:06] If you need to.
[16:07] So after a staring at yourself, I'll say something about it.
[16:10] March 4.
[16:11] March 4.
[16:12] March 2.
[16:13] It was, uh, 11.
[16:14] 10.
[16:15] It's coming to the other.
[16:16] 7.
[16:17] Clark.
[16:18] Red man.
[16:19] It's going to be good.
[16:20] It takes March 4.
[16:21] From 1 to 4.
[16:22] It has to.
[16:23] Microwave.
[16:24] Inside the afternoon.
[16:25] March 4.
[16:26] The all-class reunion.
[16:28] And the beer.
[16:29] Gidward reunion.
[16:30] At the same time.
[16:31] So come out.
[16:32] It's going to be great.
[16:33] That's when we're a great day.
[16:34] It's all right.
[16:35] And then that evening.
[16:36] Dennis James and the silent movie.
[16:39] They call.
[16:40] Okay.
[16:42] Any other announcements?
[16:43] Um, I don't know.
[16:44] If they haven't been dating, you might touch on this, but uh, this is going to be our last
[16:49] meeting with Mic.
[16:50] You're setting up here to help.
[16:52] So.
[16:53] It is.
[16:54] I think we have to go in the way for you next Monday.
[16:55] Yeah.
[16:56] Coming up.
[16:57] So it's kind of having the long goodbye.
[16:58] And I think it depends on how far on if you're a good daddy.
[17:00] You're not by then.
[17:01] Uh, that would be Saturday.
[17:02] That would be Saturday.
[17:03] That would be Saturday.
[17:04] That would be Saturday.
[17:05] Oh, why?
[17:06] He's just still handcuffed and balled to you for.
[17:08] It's Saturday.
[17:09] Okay.
[17:10] Yeah.
[17:11] I think like he's discovering a whole different world now.
[17:16] Yes.
[17:17] So, but he's going to be best greatly.
[17:18] Absolutely.
[17:19] Thank you for your service.
[17:20] Thank you, Mic.
[17:21] Thank you.
[17:23] No more annoying iPad questions.
[17:25] I don't find you.
[17:26] Yeah.
[17:27] Okay.
[17:28] I'm proud to see you, man.
[17:30] Between the faces, Dean.
[17:31] The only thing I wanted to bring up is that next week at four o'clock.
[17:34] We'll have our study session.
[17:36] And our plan right now is to talk about completely different way of handling a lot of our
[17:42] mowing during the year, especially people with vacant lots.
[17:48] We just talked about that quite a bit.
[17:50] And looking at trying to bring that back in a house.
[17:53] So we're much more effective at taking care of this.
[17:58] So we want to talk about it.
[18:00] about that with you next week. I may put this item regarding the demolition permit on that, as well as you could think.
[18:07] Next, excuse me, have that action. I'm trying to get over a cold, I'm sorry.
[18:12] You're right into the knowing. The issue of buying a motor came up at some point in the past,
[18:18] and you know, if you had some specific questions, is there anything that you want to make sure they're able to answer
[18:24] or at next week's meeting, we're like, you know, I think my question in response to your
[18:29] and certainly correct was in the knowing in regards to the new motor's purchase,
[18:32] the cemetery.
[18:36] But we also, cemetery had to help out, and go ahead and pay for that.
[18:42] That's correct. So, you know, we'll be ready for that.
[18:48] So, if you're going to be recommending a change in the purchase of machinery and stuff like that,
[18:54] we'll all know about that.
[18:56] Okay.
[18:57] I'm just going to come up under an announcement, I guess.
[18:59] We, I know we've talked about about public caring for the charter discussion.
[19:03] We're planning on doing that next month or what you're thinking.
[19:08] I think I need to get better organized.
[19:11] I'm sexually saying down the counter today, trying to plot aspects.
[19:15] I'm going to talk to Rayleigh.
[19:16] I'm going to talk with the newspaper about getting some more information out.
[19:20] And then it's drafted some talking points that we're taking a look at right now as you'd requested.
[19:25] So, I think the term public caring is a bit of a misnolum,
[19:31] because we've been talking about council meetings for a long time.
[19:35] But I do want to bring it up again, or have the opportunity,
[19:38] as we disseminate information for people to give us feedback.
[19:42] I mean, the artist said, we can't change it at this point,
[19:46] but I still want people to have the opportunity to ask questions,
[19:49] so that we can give them, you know, to answer their questions and educate them about it.
[19:54] I talked to the election board a couple of weeks ago.
[19:57] My other requirement is that every person that gets about it will get a full copy of the revised charter.
[20:05] So, we have to prepare 10,000 copies to go to be available.
[20:12] So, anything else related to that?
[20:15] No, I don't.
[20:18] I don't.
[20:19] We talked about a few weeks ago, and then was going to work on some talking points for worse,
[20:25] and then we're going to use that as kind of a springboard,
[20:28] to disseminating information.
[20:30] Okay.
[20:31] Okay.
[20:32] It is.
[20:33] It is.
[20:34] It is.
[20:35] It is.
[20:36] It is.
[20:37] It is.
[20:38] It is.
[20:39] It is.
[20:40] It is.
[20:41] Yeah.
[20:42] They're indicating that's what they do,
[20:44] and they're getting back with me with a definitive answer.
[20:48] Okay.
[20:49] And I talked about the state election board.
[20:51] Okay.
[20:52] Okay.
[20:53] As far as I know, the strong impression that that's what is going to be required.
[20:58] Right.
[21:00] You have a shoulder or a magnet, it's made of legs.
[21:02] Okay.
[21:03] Christian, do you?
[21:05] Just they did set for publication of the newspaper and it's entirely on Sunday.
[21:10] Okay.
[21:11] They're coming Sunday.
[21:12] 26.
[21:13] Okay.
[21:14] Now I'll be the first of three.
[21:15] Correct.
[21:16] Okay.
[21:17] Okay.
[21:18] Anything else?
[21:19] What about that?
[21:20] The first of the three publications is set for the 26.
[21:25] Crystal is just making sure everyone is aware of that.
[21:29] Okay.
[21:30] Anything else?
[21:32] I have 13 of the gentlemen.
[21:34] We have most of the gentlemen.
[21:36] Most of the gentlemen.
[21:37] Second.
[21:38] Second.
[21:39] Old Paul, please.
[21:40] Weston.
[21:41] Alright.
[21:42] Forster.
[21:43] Alright.
[21:44] Lewis, I'm souls.
[21:45] Alright.
[21:46] We're all done.
[21:47] D.
[21:47] D.
[21:48] D.